FFXIV: The TTRPG

[Cilia]

So they announced a TTRPG version of the game today...

Anybody else hyped? I want to know if GNB is going to be available in the base or if we're going to need a splatbook for that.

Eagerly awaiting details!

[Theodric]

No, not particularly. I'd rather see more RPG elements added to the game itself - such as more meaningful choices to be made within the MSQ's. Imagine if we could have our character react like a regular human would and show disgust towards the shocking reveal that a certain mother goddess deliberately inflicted genocide upon her own people?

As a roleplayer I've found it very difficult to be enthusiastic about actually engaging in roleplay in FFXIV due to how railroaded everything relating to the story happens to be.

[EgilTheStressedMage]

Not in the slightest. I can't immerse myself in any world beyond looking at my character and thinking how much of an indestructible badass they are and all else in the world is theirs for the taking.

[Atelier-Bagur]

No, not particularly. I'd rather see more RPG elements added to the game itself - such as more meaningful choices to be made within the MSQ's. Imagine if we could have our character react like a regular human would and show disgust towards the shocking reveal that a certain mother goddess deliberately inflicted genocide upon her own people?

As a roleplayer I've found it very difficult to be enthusiastic about actually engaging in roleplay in FFXIV due to how railroaded everything relating to the story happens to be.

I swear, I feel like almost every response you make is just so try cynically try hard. I say this because I knew exactly what your response was gonna be by being the contrarian as usual and linking back the discussion to the game itself.

I'm sorry, I know this is off topic, but I just kinda find it amusing. I dont play DnD anyway so I'm not excited myself but even then I wouldnt have cared to make such a response.

[MintnHoney]

I swear, I feel like almost every response you make is just so try cynically try hard. I say this because I knew exactly what your response was gonna be by being the contrarian as usual and linking back the discussion to the game itself.

I'm sorry, I know this is off topic, but I just kinda find it amusing. I dont play DnD anyway so I'm not excited myself but even then I wouldnt have cared to make such a response.

Shame on Theodric for stating his distaste for a new product so honestly, in thread about said product, on a discussion board, and being rather polite and somewhat clinical about it in an effort not to upset certain posters whose titties twist whenever someone so much as utters direct disdain for the game or developers.
Shame. I'd smack you on the hand if I had a long enough ruler, Theodric, but I'm sure you can make do on your own.

At any rate, I'm sure glad that they found a way to finally let players play FFXIV, the MMO slowly morphing into a single player game, offline, and I can't wait for them to ruthlessly go after all the homebrew templates and content created by other people that have been posted around the internet because it violates some sort of copyright that will become relevant now that they're releasing a TTRPG that likely has minimal substance but all the flashiness that a mindless collector could want.

[Atelier-Bagur]

Shame on Theodric for stating his distaste for a new product so honestly, in thread about said product, on a discussion board, and being rather polite and somewhat clinical about it in an effort not to upset certain posters whose titties twist whenever someone so much as utters direct disdain for the game or developers.
Shame. I'd smack you on the hand if I had a long enough ruler, Theodric, but I'm sure you can make do on your own.

At any rate, I'm sure glad that they found a way to finally let players play FFXIV, the MMO slowly morphing into a single player game, offline, and I can't wait for them to ruthlessly go after all the homebrew templates and content created by other people that have been posted around the internet because it violates some sort of copyright that will become relevant now that they're releasing a TTRPG that likely has minimal substance but all the flashiness that a mindless collector could want.

You misunderstand me, the thing wasnt that he doesnt like the product.

I DONT LIKE THE TTRPG myself. I think its just meh, but if you notice Theodric's attitude its just a bit eye-rolly that of course he has to add further into it by going back "I rather wish the game itself has rpg elements' and yada yada and I was just making an observation from knowing how the guy talks.

[MintnHoney]

You misunderstand me, the thing wasnt that he doesnt like the product.

I'm aware that your oddly-visceral reaction was about how he posted, rather than the content of his post. I just don't agree that someone who seems to be actively going out of his way to share his opinions in such a way as to be mindful of the people around him, seemingly in an effort to avoid emotional reactions which don't further on-topic discussions, is somehow expressing a specific "attitude" unless you're attributing his distaste for the product as being his "attitude."
It comes off like you're that kid in grade school who makes fun of another kid because they knew how to answer the teacher's question, or "that one guy" in movies who makes fun of a character for having a hobby that's not deemed "worthy" by the group he's trying to appeal to. I'm not a fan and I don't think he deserves that, but it presents a fun opportunity (and so I chose) to be sardonic.

[TaleraRistain]

Shame on Theodric for stating his distaste for a new product so honestly, in thread about said product, on a discussion board, and being rather polite and somewhat clinical about it in an effort not to upset certain posters whose titties twist whenever someone so much as utters direct disdain for the game or developers.

He didn't state his distaste for a new product. He didn't comment on the product at all. It's a XIV related product but more than likely no one on the development staff is involved with making it and still he links it back to issues he has with the MMO. And we have yet another thread where he can't stop himself from bringing up Venat. This is how many now?

[MintnHoney]

He didn't state his distaste for a new product. He didn't comment on the product at all.

I believe that, at the very least, the comment of "not at all" in response to the question of "how hyped are you for this product?" qualifies as a comment on the product (make up your mind: do you want precision, or do you want to be vague?). The fact that he decided to explain his stance further is extra icing on that cake, although I guess you're allowed to not accept that as part of his comment on the product.

It's a XIV related product but more than likely no one on the development staff is involved with making it and still he links it back to issues he has with the MMO.

He linked it back to FFXIV, the game, because it is a product about the game. FFXIV TTRP being related to FFXIV is not the mysterious and complicated leap of logic you're making it out to be.

And we have yet another thread where he can't stop himself from bringing up Venat. This is how many now?

I don't exactly keep track of his posts, but I don't honestly remember seeing any threads where his sole purpose is to spread propaganda against or about Venat, or where he's just burning to talk about Venat. That might be because I don't participate in lore discussions, or it may be because he doesn't actually do that.
For your sake, since you may not know how to do it yourself, and also because I haven't done something like this before, and also because you've piqued my interest, I've gone through and looked at his past posts (just the last 20, to see if, other than this post, he really does just constantly gab about Venat). It may surprise you that, other than in this thread, he...
*drumroll*
...has not mentioned Venat even once in those first 20 posts.
Meaning, he's not quite as Venat crazy as that one player was Ancients-crazy (remember that "The Ancients are my people, and YoshiP committed unfair genocide upon them" thread? Good times), and not so prone to talk about Venat as you're making him out to be. In fact, studies suggest that a lack of something in ones behavior means that this something is not actually happening, and some experts would suggest that the perception of such suggests a bias either for or against the topic, behavior, or the person observed.
To that end, I think you're just being extra-crispy sensitive about him because you were recently trying to argue with him.

I think that's just what they provide in the basic starter box. It's a short adventure with a few premade character sheets so beginners can jump in and try it out, sort of like a demo. D&D has similar starter boxes like this. There will also be a separate full rulebook which will provide the complete character/job options.

On one hand, it would be very Squeen if they just decided to avoid developing this any further, and thus we get a single list of jobs, probably at least the ARR Job list, and never see anything more again.
Then again, on the other hand, it wouldn't be too surprising if they did start with just the four jobs and decide to offer supplements that offer additional jobs on a book by book basis as "FFXIV TTRPG expansions." You know, like "here's BARD, and an adventure that features them!"

[Theodric]

I swear, I feel like almost every response you make is just so try cynically try hard. I say this because I knew exactly what your response was gonna be by being the contrarian as usual and linking back the discussion to the game itself.

I'm sorry, I know this is off topic, but I just kinda find it amusing. I dont play DnD anyway so I'm not excited myself but even then I wouldnt have cared to make such a response.

Thankfully I do not go out of my way to seek permission from specific posters when it comes to leaving feedback relating to the game. I'm a roleplayer myself, so the product would have been of interest to me if the game itself had done more to cater to and appease roleplayers.

It's something I've pushed for many times in the past as you can see from my past posts relating to the subject that is roleplay.

That aside, it's worth noting that the game attracts players from many different backgrounds, cultures, countries, personality types and belief systems. As such, you're never going to get along with absolutely everyone and neither will every individual be your preferred cup of tea. I certainly don't expect anything more than a polite agreement or disagreement, though I daresay there's little need to launch personal attacks over someone's posting style. Especially if they're adhering to the site's rules.

I don't think there's anything particularly 'try hard' about my posts, either - not that it hugely matters but I'm Scottish and was taught to write in this manner. I don't feel obliged to change that for the sake of specific individuals on a video game forum.