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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Ive had this conversation with people IRL who love to say "It doesnt work"
    True....because not everybody is doing it. Which then means; According to the metrics, there are people who either dont care, or people that like / Enjoy it. So they will continue to pay, play & Support. It wont work...until a Large enough Metric joins in and unsubscribes AND leave feedback.
    Its probably been established for many years, the Metrics Point UP. If you want them to do down and give them a message....Vote - With - Your - Wallet.
    It REALLY IS that simple, but people will just create excuses not to do it. And will continue to pay, keeping that Metric up.
    Vote with your wallet works - when enough players are in agreement.

    Vote with your wallet doesn't work - when you're part of a small minority and the rest of the player base doesn't feel the same way.

    Think it was Theodric that shared the story about a friend who decided to vote with their wallet and left the game for several months. They came back expecting the game to be what they wanted, and were disappointed when it wasn't.

    Games do not change for the sake of a single player's money. They do not change for the sake of 100 players' money. They do not change for the sake of 10,000 players' money.

    But when you get 100,000 players to quit about the same time, leaving essentially the same feedback, do they pay attention?

    Yes, then they pay attention.

    If you feel a certain change is needed, you need to band together with those who feel likewise and vote with your wallets at the same time. Contact your friends who agree with you. Contact your favorite content creators who agree with you. Post in reddit and on Twitter X and ask those who agree with you to join you. Give up those houses you value so dearly to show your sincerity about how you feel.

    If enough do it, it will get noticed.

    It worked great for WoW players the one time they actually banded together and began quitting en masse. WoW devs listened and reversed an unpopular decision a few weeks later.

    It worked great for the FFXIV 1.0 players who found a bad game and quit that bad game. SE chose to start over and rebuild that bad game.

    If only a few thousand join you, then perhaps it's time to decide if you can enjoy game in the direction it is going or if you are better off elsewhere. A few thousand isn't going to be enough to influence the game's direction.

    Especially if they're not Japanese, which I hate saying but it's looking more and more true based on the recent interviews. NA/EU feedback is rarely making it to the dev team and so they're making decisions based on the feedback from their "home" audience. I don't begrudge them the decision - it is their game to make as they choose. But I do find it disappointing since we're all paying customers.

    Quote Originally Posted by UkcsAlias View Post

    People wont leave for the 20% they dislike if the 80% is still fun for them.
    Which is fair enough. I wouldn't say my like/dislike split is 80/20 but there are definitely things I think are in need of serious improvement. I'm not going to quit over them though.

    But some of the posters seem to be indicating that they don't like anything. They don't like the MSQ. They don't like the job design. They don't like the content SE released in EW. They don't like repeating content from other expansions.

    When that like/dislike split is closer to 5/95, why are those players hanging around?
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 09-22-2023 at 06:51 PM.