CBU3 has abandoned us

[SquishyPlushie]

What you have linked is a case of someone being mad someone else is correctly tag categorizing their sockpuppet threads, and being unable to comprehend more than one person is tagging as such because many threads are that blatant.

If more than one person is doing it, maybe it means there's a trend. In fact, I have zero tolerance of sock puppets or alt accounts which is specifically why I use tags to categorize potential sockpuppeting threads to help people understand which threads are what.

Additionally, if you were concerned about correctly tagging posts to help sort as being somehow offensive, you would not have indulged in linking a false witchhunt.

And where should they listen to?

Listening to the forums after they institute said suggestions.
Are you implying we should all give up and leave the front page be full of bad faith alt posts such as this one?

[Lauront]

Listening to the forums after they institute said suggestions.

Yes, I won't hold my breath. But even implementing this suggestion would require that they a) care about the forum enough to do so and b) that they're currently obtaining feedback from it. And that is assuming they could not already simply filter out feedback they considered to be offered on false pretences out. Have we heard a peep from the CM who announced their arrival the other day? All the while, they are harvesting feedback from sites with more pervasive issues along these lines, as I mentioned.

Also you thing you linked is just someone trying to rationalize what they are doing by false projection onto others which weren't true in the end.

If you say so.

[Lieri]

Today my 700+ days of subscription streak ended. Its not much compared to most players but to me its big. I started near COVID era where I found this game to be the only reason to get up because at the time I got sick.

Fast forward a few years later, my emotional attachment to the game can only help so far. There is no content. And near the end of expansion like this feels like playing a game thats about to get shut down. I think they really need to cut the "RPG first MMO second" bullcrap. This game is an MMO, won awards for MMOs and as an MMO. MMO is about immersion and progression. The game direction has shifted from MMO to a single player game. Which means it doesnt have an identity. It doesnt stand out at both single player and MMO because it tries to be both.

I know sometimes people say, it has to be RPGMMO because there are a lot of casuals. Well guess what in other MMOs there are also a lot of casual players. Doesnt mean the devs will go out of their way into making their MMO into a single player game.

I am not even big on social ascepts of MMO, I play mostly solo and know like 1-2 people in the game. Yet even for me, this game doesnt feel like an MMO anymore. Most mobile MMOs feel more alive and thats worrying.

[Stormpeaks]

Today my 700+ days of subscription streak ended. Its not much compared to most players but to me its big. I started near COVID era where I found this game to be the only reason to get up because at the time I got sick.

Fast forward a few years later, my emotional attachment to the game can only help so far. There is no content. And near the end of expansion like this feels like playing a game thats about to get shut down. I think they really need to cut the "RPG first MMO second" bullcrap. This game is an MMO, won awards for MMOs and as an MMO. MMO is about immersion and progression. The game direction has shifted from MMO to a single player game. Which means it doesnt have an identity. It doesnt stand out at both single player and MMO because it tries to be both.

I know sometimes people say, it has to be RPGMMO because there are a lot of casuals. Well guess what in other MMOs there are also a lot of casual players. Doesnt mean the devs will go out of their way into making their MMO into a single player game.

I am not even big on social ascepts of MMO, I play mostly solo and know like 1-2 people in the game. Yet even for me, this game doesnt feel like an MMO anymore. Most mobile MMOs feel more alive and thats worrying.

Well said tbh for everything you mentioned, it actually got to the point where people are creating their own content by going to venues and stuff, because if it wasnt for that, they actually just wouldnt be playing the game at all, there really is nothing to look forward to, and that's a big problem, there has to be SOMETHING to look forward to, but in FFXIV that's not a thing, it's just reclears after reclears after reclears with an absolutely atrocious loot system, if you want to gear up your alt jobs, be ready to wait for a few months if not longer, and that's PER job, and once you've done the ultimates its just repeating the same thing ad nauseum just for the sake of doing it to say you're actually doing something with your game time, I cant even count how many times I've heard friends tell me that they're doing savage after getting their weekly loot just to keep busy because there is nothing else for them to do, even though they cant even loot it anymore, they just do it... to do it because if it wasnt for that, they'd just close the game so they try and fill the void of content that exists in this game, by repeating it over and over again knowing they'll get nothing out of it.

I've played WoW for 15+ years, I have never heard of someone doing the raids multiple times with no loot at all to even get (when its current content) just because they'd just close the game if it wasnt for that, to me it speaks volume when your playerbase does that, just to justify their subscription fee.

[PaulH]

Well said tbh for everything you mentioned, it actually got to the point where people are creating their own content by going to venues and stuff, because if it wasnt for that, they actually just wouldnt be playing the game at all, there really is nothing to look forward to, and that's a big problem, there has to be SOMETHING to look forward to, but in FFXIV that's not a thing, it's just reclears after reclears after reclears with an absolutely atrocious loot system, if you want to gear up your alt jobs, be ready to wait for a few months if not longer, and that's PER job, and once you've done the ultimates its just repeating the same thing ad nauseum just for the sake of doing it to say you're actually doing something with your game time, I cant even count how many times I've heard friends tell me that they're doing savage after getting their weekly loot just to keep busy because there is nothing else for them to do, even though they cant even loot it anymore, they just do it... to do it because if it wasnt for that, they'd just close the game so they try and fill the void of content that exists in this game, by repeating it over and over again knowing they'll get nothing out of it.

I've played WoW for 15+ years, I have never heard of someone doing the raids multiple times with no loot at all to even get (when its current content) just because they'd just close the game if it wasnt for that, to me it speaks volume when your playerbase does that, just to justify their subscription fee.

Setting aside the MSQ which is integral. Do you think that would have not been an issue in 14 if when creating character you were limited to one single job? therefore gearing up multiple different characters to play a variety of roles. I haven't played wow but I think it is one character per class/job?

[Aldath]

Today my 700+ days of subscription streak ended. Its not much compared to most players but to me its big. I started near COVID era where I found this game to be the only reason to get up because at the time I got sick.

Fast forward a few years later, my emotional attachment to the game can only help so far. There is no content. And near the end of expansion like this feels like playing a game thats about to get shut down. I think they really need to cut the "RPG first MMO second" bullcrap. This game is an MMO, won awards for MMOs and as an MMO. MMO is about immersion and progression. The game direction has shifted from MMO to a single player game. Which means it doesnt have an identity. It doesnt stand out at both single player and MMO because it tries to be both.

I know sometimes people say, it has to be RPGMMO because there are a lot of casuals. Well guess what in other MMOs there are also a lot of casual players. Doesnt mean the devs will go out of their way into making their MMO into a single player game.

I am not even big on social ascepts of MMO, I play mostly solo and know like 1-2 people in the game. Yet even for me, this game doesnt feel like an MMO anymore. Most mobile MMOs feel more alive and thats worrying.

Honestly that's how many MMOs operate nowadays. Reliance on non instanced content for multi-player aspects runs a higher risk of becoming dead once its relevance ends and of you want to future proof them you'll eventually need to make them either single player or work for very small groups. Gw2 had open world maps that needed the cooperation of many players to go through, and now unless you have mounts to cheese the content you won't even be able to explore most of it. Lost Ark had multi-player events like drinking mini games and large scale ship battles and they're all dead in favor of instanced content. Want a local example? See Eureka and Bozja. Go ahead, try to complete their storyline and alliance raids without Discord help.

We have plenty of quality multi-player content in this game already, CBU3 just isn't doing anything with it and there's a chunk of the playerbase who doesn't wants to replay it.

[Theodric]

They're highly unlikely to block shared IP's or accounts that share billing information in an era where it isn't at all uncommon for people to play games together whilst living under the same roof.

[SquishyPlushie]

I wonder what the forums think of that South Korea "citizen identification number" that is required then. Or one phone number per account many studios have in place.

Also the restrictions mentioned would only be active for sanctioning or same-thread use.

[Swordsman]

They're highly unlikely to block shared IP's or accounts that share billing information in an era where it isn't at all uncommon for people to play games together whilst living under the same roof.

That and the fact the IP could be a VPN that's used by thousands of people or the IP could belong to a public internet cafe. Can't just ban the entire cafe, lol. A slightly more effective method would be banning by hardware ID, but then again that raises the problem of a single PC used by many different people. Even then, hardware ID bans can be easily bypassed.

[SquishyPlushie]

Lot of people in here seem to be unnecessarily awfully afraid of IP tracking.

That and the fact the IP could be a VPN that's used by thousands of people or the IP could belong to a public internet cafe. Can't just ban the entire cafe, lol. A slightly more effective method would be banning by hardware ID, but then again that raises the problem of a single PC used by many different people. Even then, hardware ID bans can be easily bypassed.

Pretty sure that one would come packaged with an anti-cheat. This game does need an anti-cheat badly. I'm sure we've all seen the videos of someone going around speedhacking PvP for months on end.