CBU3 has abandoned us

[Jojoya]

Ive had this conversation with people IRL who love to say "It doesnt work"
True....because not everybody is doing it. Which then means; According to the metrics, there are people who either dont care, or people that like / Enjoy it. So they will continue to pay, play & Support. It wont work...until a Large enough Metric joins in and unsubscribes AND leave feedback.
Its probably been established for many years, the Metrics Point UP. If you want them to do down and give them a message....Vote - With - Your - Wallet.
It REALLY IS that simple, but people will just create excuses not to do it. And will continue to pay, keeping that Metric up.

Vote with your wallet works - when enough players are in agreement.

Vote with your wallet doesn't work - when you're part of a small minority and the rest of the player base doesn't feel the same way.

Think it was Theodric that shared the story about a friend who decided to vote with their wallet and left the game for several months. They came back expecting the game to be what they wanted, and were disappointed when it wasn't.

Games do not change for the sake of a single player's money. They do not change for the sake of 100 players' money. They do not change for the sake of 10,000 players' money.

But when you get 100,000 players to quit about the same time, leaving essentially the same feedback, do they pay attention?

Yes, then they pay attention.

If you feel a certain change is needed, you need to band together with those who feel likewise and vote with your wallets at the same time. Contact your friends who agree with you. Contact your favorite content creators who agree with you. Post in reddit and on Twitter X and ask those who agree with you to join you. Give up those houses you value so dearly to show your sincerity about how you feel.

If enough do it, it will get noticed.

It worked great for WoW players the one time they actually banded together and began quitting en masse. WoW devs listened and reversed an unpopular decision a few weeks later.

It worked great for the FFXIV 1.0 players who found a bad game and quit that bad game. SE chose to start over and rebuild that bad game.

If only a few thousand join you, then perhaps it's time to decide if you can enjoy game in the direction it is going or if you are better off elsewhere. A few thousand isn't going to be enough to influence the game's direction.

Especially if they're not Japanese, which I hate saying but it's looking more and more true based on the recent interviews. NA/EU feedback is rarely making it to the dev team and so they're making decisions based on the feedback from their "home" audience. I don't begrudge them the decision - it is their game to make as they choose. But I do find it disappointing since we're all paying customers.

People wont leave for the 20% they dislike if the 80% is still fun for them.

Which is fair enough. I wouldn't say my like/dislike split is 80/20 but there are definitely things I think are in need of serious improvement. I'm not going to quit over them though.

But some of the posters seem to be indicating that they don't like anything. They don't like the MSQ. They don't like the job design. They don't like the content SE released in EW. They don't like repeating content from other expansions.

When that like/dislike split is closer to 5/95, why are those players hanging around?

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

They no longer care about any feedback beyond feedback that is extremely trivial and low cost to implement like alliance raid ilvl issues.

In multiple interviews, they are now outright dismissing player concerns or stating outright falsehoods (like DC travel being a JP only issue).

Since CBU3 no longer cares about the game there is no need for players to care about FF14 anymore.

I dont personally agree with this....but I am curious.
Does this mean people will actually start leaving to show SE and Devs a True message? Or will we see the Usual posters come in and just say the same things next patch / Expansion?

Not like I want it to happen to the game...but when will people finally learn that Metrics matter more then blasting Forums? Especially on a Forum where people have said many, Many, MANY times, that they dont listen. Yet continue to complain like anything will change? And Keep feeding the game money.
Im still gonna be here to SEE for myself if there will be improvements in Dawntrail. If not, and if the game starts to become Unfun even for a Casual like me, then Im out.
I have no sunken Cost, Im not chained to the game. If it cant prove, Im just out.
Maybe by people leaving, they can wake up, and actually reach out for answers instead of that Questionnaire. .

[Kaliesto]

Honestly, maybe the only real way to reach these devs is through the JPN square enix website with their corporate emails listed (which seems to be a thing with other JPN counterpart Studios like Capcom).

If the devs. don't want to read what we have to say directly, lets take it to their executives and see what the tree shakes out because I literally have no more ideas at this point.

[CStrife912]

I would say the best thing to do is to just vote with your wallet and leave but after seeing your posts and threads lately it’s easy to ascertain who you are so you need your alts for ‘other activities’ so all your doing is rather than make points just causing drama. We honestly need a mega thread for all this sort of stuff it would be better for the forum… not saying the discussion can’t be had but making the front page be loaded with it all is just getting silly at this point

[MAJRIS]

I used to screenshot the sprouts with the new store mount but eventually got tired of it and can't name people here anyway.

How do you convince sprouts with too much spare cash to hold on, for the good of all players, long term?

They don't care and will pay 30€ anyway. They might not be playing near in the future so fun right now is more important than fun all down the road.

Just my thoughts

[aveyond-dreams]

I used to screenshot the sprouts with the new store mount but eventually got tired of it and can't name people here anyway.

How do you convince sprouts with too much spare cash to hold on, for the good of all players, long term?

They don't care and will pay 30€ anyway. They might not be playing near in the future so fun right now is more important than fun all down the road.

Just my thoughts

There was also a video by a content creator only yesterday in which they felt the need to defend why they bought and currently use the Ysayle mogstation outfit as glam. Honestly everyone who bought that outfit should be retroactively given the Ysayle hairstyle for free as compensation, because otherwise it really is just a slightly modified robe from ARR.

[DPZ2]

How do you convince sprouts with too much spare cash to hold on, for the good of all players, long term?

You do not try. They are spending money on entertainment, same as us. They are having fun. In game.

[Jojoya]

I used to screenshot the sprouts with the new store mount but eventually got tired of it and can't name people here anyway.

How do you convince sprouts with too much spare cash to hold on, for the good of all players, long term?

They don't care and will pay 30€ anyway. They might not be playing near in the future so fun right now is more important than fun all down the road.

Just my thoughts

You don't. The money doesn't really mean anything to them.

It's something they need to learn on their own. They're not going to listen to someone giving advice counter to what they were conditioned to believe on social media and that was reinforced by their friends likewise conditioned.

[MAJRIS]

That thing shouldnt get through quality control into store at all, in the first place.

Im not against outfits but this is the blizzard-s level monkey paw greed and laziness, and people paying for it are accelerating it.

Its like telling people to not pee into the pool, and they keep doing it and construct arguments on the fly why is it good.

[sindriiisgaming]

They no longer care about any feedback beyond feedback that is extremely trivial and low cost to implement like alliance raid ilvl issues.

In multiple interviews, they are now outright dismissing player concerns or stating outright falsehoods (like DC travel being a JP only issue).

Since CBU3 no longer cares about the game there is no need for players to care about FF14 anymore.

ill be real.. whats the point in this thread, what do you hope to gain? feedback is where if any... normally im on bored with threads discussing CBUIII not being the best but those at least tried to give constructive feedback. what was the legit goal you set out to achieve when you made this thread. Honest question?