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    Kes13a's Avatar
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Is it supposed to be shocking or surprising that a corporation doesn't care about individuals? I mean, maybe it's just elder millennial cynicism showing through, but.
    maybe for the younger people in the forums, "business" means something different.

    the way I learned the word was it pertains entirely to the acquisition of money. period. caring about individuals, especially forum users, is only convenient if it means... more money. I somehow doubt the small percentage of forum posters contribute enough to move the care meter...at all
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    It's pretty clear their main metric is not at all fun or engagement factor but activity/clear/earn rates. If you don't like something and you want it fixed, you need to cease reward hunting from it and never queue for it. Otherwise, if you earn that reward than they deem it a success and that it has served its purpose. It's pretty scummy we're at a point now where for them to listen, we need to activity avoid finishing the final relic step for them to consider it feedback.
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    99.99% chance probably a Titanman alt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonoki View Post
    It's pretty clear their main metric is not at all fun or engagement factor but activity/clear/earn rates. If you don't like something and you want it fixed, you need to cease reward hunting from it and never queue for it. Otherwise, if you earn that reward than they deem it a success and that it has served its purpose. It's pretty scummy we're at a point now where for them to listen, we need to activity avoid finishing the final relic step for them to consider it feedback.
    Just gonna quote myself since that seems to be the thing people are doing this week.
    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    When it comes to companies and products as big as XIV, the only feedback that matters is one traceable on a spreadsheet.
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    I just wish they didn't come across as so distant and removed from what's going on in the game as these recent interviews suggest. But sadly this is the only natural outcome that would have come from only focusing on numerical data and not taking the time to comb through what players are saying.

    They need to get their finger on the pulse again but by this point Endwalker can't really be salvaged, and the expectations laid out for Dawntrail don't really paint the strongest image for this game's future. It looks like it'll just be another Endwalker 2.0, and that's the last thing FFXIV needs right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    I just wish they didn't come across as so distant and removed from what's going on in the game as these recent interviews suggest. But sadly this is the only natural outcome that would have come from only focusing on numerical data and not taking the time to comb through what players are saying.

    They need to get their finger on the pulse again but by this point Endwalker can't really be salvaged, and the expectations laid out for Dawntrail don't really paint the strongest image for this game's future. It looks like it'll just be another Endwalker 2.0, and that's the last thing FFXIV needs right now.
    The pulse? The forum is not the heart of this game. It is the colon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noumenon View Post
    They no longer care about any feedback beyond feedback that is extremely trivial and low cost to implement like alliance raid ilvl issues.

    In multiple interviews, they are now outright dismissing player concerns or stating outright falsehoods (like DC travel being a JP only issue).

    Since CBU3 no longer cares about the game there is no need for players to care about FF14 anymore.
    Would probably be a lot easier for some people to do without auto demolishion existing. I wonder how numbers would look like if that was off forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noumenon View Post
    They no longer care about any feedback beyond feedback that is extremely trivial and low cost to implement like alliance raid ilvl issues.

    In multiple interviews, they are now outright dismissing player concerns or stating outright falsehoods (like DC travel being a JP only issue).

    Since CBU3 no longer cares about the game there is no need for players to care about FF14 anymore.
    Ok bye?....but we all know you aren't leaving the game so stop with the theatrics.
    Not every player concern is a valid one. And yes they (the devs n such) do get things wrong as does anyone but to say CBU3 no longer cares is just flat out a falsehood. Are they misguided with certain things? I'd agree with that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Would probably be a lot easier for some people to do without auto demolishion existing. I wonder how numbers would look like if that was off forever.
    This logic has always been weird. What good is a house in a game you don't enjoy? Paying 15$ a month to keep a house you're most likely doing nothing with makes no sense. Folks will blame SE but it's the players making the choice to fork over that money.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonoki View Post
    It's pretty clear their main metric is not at all fun or engagement factor but activity/clear/earn rates. If you don't like something and you want it fixed, you need to cease reward hunting from it and never queue for it. Otherwise, if you earn that reward than they deem it a success and that it has served its purpose. It's pretty scummy we're at a point now where for them to listen, we need to activity avoid finishing the final relic step for them to consider it feedback.
    This begs the question...what defines what's fun? Cause while many say they aren't having fun many say they are. No real definitive answer there.
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    Last edited by IkaraGreydancer; 09-22-2023 at 05:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    This logic has always been weird. What good is a house in a game you don't enjoy? Paying 15$ a month to keep a house you're most likely doing nothing with makes no sense. Folks will blame SE but it's the players making the choice to fork over that money.
    It's not that hard to understand. People spent time and gil getting their house and decorating it. It's an achievement they accomplished in the game and they don't want it to disappear just because they were gone for a little while. It's the same reason you don't just give all your stuff away every time you take a month off of XIV. Because you want the things you worked for to be there when you get back.

    That said, speaking as a big big decorating enthusiast, if the new allied raid sucks I will take a lot of pics of my house and then sadly kiss it goodbye because there're just better games/services I could spend the 15 a month/180 a year on.
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    Last edited by Avoidy; 09-22-2023 at 05:09 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shialan View Post
    I don't get it. Do you really have nothing better to do with your life than creating shitpost after shitpost?
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    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshida-san
    Let's consider another theoretical mod: one that displays your character entirely naked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    This logic has always been weird. What good is a house in a game you don't enjoy? Paying 15$ a month to keep a house you're most likely doing nothing with makes no sense. Folks will blame SE but it's the players making the choice to fork over that money.
    What is this? Someone else who gets this?

    That's it, that's all I got, the overly dramatic tone of the OP just made me facepalm and go speechless, but this I had to mention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noumenon View Post
    They no longer care about any feedback beyond feedback that is extremely trivial and low cost to implement like alliance raid ilvl issues.

    In multiple interviews, they are now outright dismissing player concerns or stating outright falsehoods (like DC travel being a JP only issue).

    Since CBU3 no longer cares about the game there is no need for players to care about FF14 anymore.
    Ok. Since this bothers you so much, feel free to cancel your account. I doubt CBU3 cares if you do, so I'm not sure why you think posting these constant threads on how much the game sucks really accomplishes much.
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