Should the devs appologise to the community

[IkaraGreydancer]

I know this sounds really harsh but, creating safe harbor for unpoliced degeneracy attracts more and more degenerates to your game, which is an objectively bad thing for a game not marketed specifically to that purpose.

People who are only looking to use this game as a sexual outlet have been flocking to it in the thousands. In the past few years, there's been an absolutely horrific uptick in cases of sexual harassment, stalking, grooming and other nastiness. Even to outsiders, this game has become increasingly known as being a hub for cybersex. I've had to deal with quite a few 'incidents' pertaining to people from the club scene that end up interacting with my circle, and it's left me with an extremely bad taste in my mouth.

Odd cause I've heard literally no one say this...
Where are these cases? Where is this info coming from? How do YOU know any of these claims are true? This can't be a "I've seen it a few times so that means the game is now known for degeneracy" cause that's not how it works.

Also can I just say, Snorky simply spoke of venues which could be anything per definition. Why did you jump immediately to "degens"? Is that what you consider most venue goers or something?

[Nebelheim]

Odd cause I've heard literally no one say this...
Where are these cases? Where is this info coming from? How do YOU know any of these claims are true? This can't be a "I've seen it a few times so that means the game is now known for degeneracy" cause that's not how it works.

Also can I just say, Snorky simply spoke of venues which could be anything per definition. Why did you jump immediately to "degens"? Is that what you consider most venue goers or something?

I have had similar experiences as littleimp after checking out venues out of curiosity and had dealt with stalkers and people getting really weird and not leave me alone to the point where i had to blacklist and report people. I might have just been unlucky but there are roleplayers that take things way too far and take things beyond your comfort zone even after setting boundaries. A lot of roleplayers are decent and at least keep things behind closed doors but i had experiences of also people trying to force things when i wanted nothing to do with whatever they wanted.

[Xeronia]

I have had similar experiences as littleimp after checking out venues out of curiosity and had dealt with stalkers and people getting really weird and not leave me alone to the point where i had to blacklist and report people. I might have just been unlucky but there are roleplayers that take things way too far and take things beyond your comfort zone even after setting boundaries. A lot of roleplayers are decent and at least keep things behind closed doors but i had experiences of also people trying to force things when i wanted nothing to do with whatever they wanted.

I have noted this here before but I made a viera alt to play with a friend of mine, I did a FATE in East shroud with someone and they started whispering me noticing where the character name was from. Three sentences in they asked me if I ERP and asked if the friend who came to bail me out was my boyfriend a few moments later. I understand this is fully a random incident that happened to me and it could be clouding my judgement on the matter but upon bringing it up in friends groups many also have similar stories, I know that is anecdotal evidence but it certainly changed my view on how much of a lack of moderation there is. Add in all the "Sorry that was supposed to be a whisper!" shouts I have seen in random zone chats of elicit nature and well I would agree it is getting out of hand.

As for the topic at hand I realized as a causal player myself I don't have to group with anyone to get my "Casual BiS of tomestone gear and relic" thanks to Duty Support. I understand the game would need this feature for future proofing but I think it has helped diminish some aspects of the game being an MMO. If I add in how so much new content this expansion simply didn't have a shelf life and in island Sanctuaries case only further isolated the community in private instances I would say this was a terrible expansion for an MMO, it is a fine single player experience I suppose. This is only further worsened by the community mentality itself of if I had wanted to do content as a Primal player I would need to go to Aether, the PF for primal is only a few groups and a ton of venue ads. I don't think I need an apology, I just want to see that next expansion has done anything to address these issue and thus far a few have been hit but several haven't been mentioned at all.

[Nebelheim]

I have noted this here before but I made a viera alt to play with a friend of mine, I did a FATE in East shroud with someone and they started whispering me noticing where the character name was from. Three sentences in they asked me if I ERP and asked if the friend who came to bail me out was my boyfriend a few moments later. I understand this is fully a random incident that happened to me and it could be clouding my judgement on the matter but upon bringing it up in friends groups many also have similar stories, I know that is anecdotal evidence but it certainly changed my view on how much of a lack of moderation there is. Add in all the "Sorry that was supposed to be a whisper!" shouts I have seen in random zone chats of elicit nature and well I would agree it is getting out of hand.

As for the topic at hand I realized as a causal player myself I don't have to group with anyone to get my "Casual BiS of tomestone gear and relic" thanks to Duty Support. I understand the game would need this feature for future proofing but I think it has helped diminish some aspects of the game being an MMO. If I add in how so much new content this expansion simply didn't have a shelf life and in island Sanctuaries case only further isolated the community in private instances I would say this was a terrible expansion for an MMO, it is a fine single player experience I suppose. This is only further worsened by the community mentality itself of if I had wanted to do content as a Primal player I would need to go to Aether, the PF for primal is only a few groups and a ton of venue ads. I don't think I need an apology, I just want to see that next expansion has done anything to address these issue and thus far a few have been hit but several haven't been mentioned at all.

I has similar experiences of people also asking where my characters name was from that lead to them asking if i erp or full blown jump into erp with me. Or i would be just sitting in limsa playing as a viera or highlander thinking what i want to do when i get unwarranted tells. After just a few experiences through a few month period i jumped back to primal.

[Xeronia]

I has similar experiences of people also asking where my characters name was from that lead to them asking if i erp or full blown jump into erp with me. Or i would be just sitting in limsa playing as a viera or highlander thinking what i want to do when i get unwarranted tells. After just a few experiences through a few month period i jumped back to primal.

Not to discourage you but this happened to me on Primal. It really isn't much better here sorry to say. I do hope you at least find some solace somewhere from it.

[Nebelheim]

Not to discourage you but this happened to me on Primal. It really isn't much better here sorry to say. I do hope you at least find some solace somewhere from it.

On primal i haven't been bothered or seen any stuff luckily but have noticed a increase in venues on every datacenter.