LuckyBancho data shows that FF14 is in decline

[NekiUno]

If the FF XIV player population is in decline... why have I experienced a login queue, of consistent length, every single time I've logged into the game in the past 18 months?

To me, I don't know why we even talking about this because every game will have ups and downs when it comes to population, no matter what. To me, it shows that this game still has a lot of activity regardless of declining numbers (the shutdowns had a part in that and other things as well). At the end of the day, the game will be fine (if FFXI is still here after all of this time then FFXIV will be in the clear).

[Stormpeaks]

I dont know, maybe Information Disorder Syndrome or something like that.



To me, I dont know why we even talking about this because every game will have ups and downs when it comes to population, no matter what. To me, it shows that this game is still active regardless of decline besides as long we do not get the End of Service letter then we are good.

Or perhaps you yourself are misinformed

The queue you see when you log in is not because the server is full, but because the servers log multiple people in at once after a small delay instead of doing it on an individual basis.

[NekiUno]

Or perhaps you yourself are misinformed

The queue you see when you log in is not because the server is full, but because the servers log multiple people in at once after a small delay instead of doing it on an individual basis.

Strike one.....I was talking about something else

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

The server catches fire when as little as 50(?) players logs in around the same time that they have to put a stopgap.

What even… lmao

[caffe_macchiato]

At the end of the day, the game will be fine (if FFXI is still here after all of this time then FFXIV will be in the clear).

FFXIV came out less than ten years after FFXI did. The latter didn't even hit its peak until just before ARR. So we had a replacement and a fallback that allowed Square Enix to make FFXI a legacy, single-player title while focusing its efforts on its new MMO.

There is no such thing for FFXIV. They are not developing a replacement MMO. There is FFXIV or WoW. This is the "new MMO" for millions of people. It's a letdown that those people don't get to see the game at its peak anymore, and are learning after the fact that the peak was years ago.

Where is the FFXIV community going to go? Many of them have already checked out of this game. They don't log in anymore. When FFXIV finally dies, as you're eagerly looking forward to, where are the rest of us going? To Discord? To Fortnite and Fall Guys? How do you think that any of those are a suitable replacement?

[Swordsman]

Or perhaps you yourself are misinformed

The queue you see when you log in is not because the server is full, but because the servers log multiple people in at once after a small delay instead of doing it on an individual basis.

The server catches fire when as little as 50(?) players logs in around the same time that they have to put a stopgap.

What even… lmao

I believe it's also partially a business tactic to trick people into thinking that the game is well-populated and thriving. Lots of people, including people in this thread, think if there's a login queue then the servers must be operating at max capacity, and if the servers are at max cap then the game must be doing well. SE is trying to create the illusion the game is flourishing, and as we can see from some comments in this thread, this illusion is working.

[Stormpeaks]

I believe it's also partially a business tactic to trick people into thinking that the game is well-populated and thriving. Lots of people, including people in this thread, think if there's a login queue then the servers must be operating at max capacity, and if the servers are at max cap then the game must be doing well. SE is trying to create the illusion the game is flourishing, and as we can see from some comments in this thread, this illusion is working.

I've always said this, the wording in the "Server is full" message implies that the actual game servers are full, while the reality is... they are not. That's why you can log in at 4 AM and have limsa be completely empty, yet you had 40 people in queue. The intent is obvious, it gives this false idea that the game servers are overloaded and that the game is booming.

[AngelCheese77]

Oh no

/10 kittens

[Payadopa]

It doesn't help that we're supposed to do the same content again and again but with more ilvl cheese AND boring jobs. At least one of the three needs to change to keep my engagement.

[NekiUno]

FFXIV came out less than ten years after FFXI did. The latter didn't even hit its peak until just before ARR. So we had a replacement and a fallback that allowed Square Enix to make FFXI a legacy, single-player title while focusing its efforts on its new MMO.

There is no such thing for FFXIV. They are not developing a replacement MMO. There is FFXIV or WoW. This is the "new MMO" for millions of people. It's a letdown that those people don't get to see the game at its peak anymore, and are learning after the fact that the peak was years ago.

Where is the FFXIV community going to go? Many of them have already checked out of this game. They don't log in anymore. When FFXIV finally dies, as you're eagerly looking forward to, where are the rest of us going? To Discord? To Fortnite and Fall Guys? How do you think that any of those are a suitable replacement?

First of all, I will not see an End of Service for this game.....for a while. But for the future, we don't know this. Think about this, if Ragnarok Online, Ultima Online, and Meridian 59 (geez, I was playing this game at MWR in Norfolk, VA when it was in Military) are still out there and players still play it then FFXIV is going to be fine.

I have been playing Video Games for a very long time and believe me, I can understand that we want something to be good forever and continue to bring in new players but like everything else, nobody even MMORPG can not win against time. Right now, I think this is going to be my last month paying full-time and it is not because of the direction of the game but because it has run its course for me and it is time to move on and do something different (doing this for nine years is crazy but I will never change it). Macchi, do you know that they have a Riot MMO coming out soon and a few other things (if Apple Vision Pro works, they are talking about making a SAO type of game.....). MMOs is still going to be around and like this game, it is going to take time.