LuckyBancho data shows that FF14 is in decline

[ChonkGoblinSuprem]

Newsflash: Gamers move on from 10 year old game after the numbers are significantly boosted during a mf pandemic, subscription numbers decline

Get a life!

[Morphiana]

The expansion is winding down and the WoW exodus to FFXIV slowed with the release of Dragonflight because apparently it fixed a lot of the issues people had with that game. There's also been a ton of new amazing games released since Spring through to this Fall so people have been taking Yoshi P's advice to take a break and enjoy other games. Lastly, inflation was crazy and wages have not caught up. Many economies internationally have begun to enter a recession, the US while having avoided an outright recession (for now) has the average citizen completely leveraged between high rent / housing prices, credit card debt and auto debt being at all time highs, and student loan repayments beginning again. Childcare expenses have skyrocketed to the moon as well.

None of this is surprising. FFXIV will be in trouble if Dawntrail does not change somethings up but right now this is a normal trend given everything listed above.

[Stormpeaks]

The expansion is winding down and the WoW exodus to FFXIV slowed with the release of Dragonflight because apparently it fixed a lot of the issues people had with that game. There's also been a ton of new amazing games released since Spring through to this Fall so people have been taking Yoshi P's advice to take a break and enjoy other games. Lastly, inflation was crazy and wages have not caught up. Many economies internationally have begun to enter a recession, the US while having avoided an outright recession (for now) has the average citizen completely leveraged between high rent / housing prices, credit card debt and auto debt being at all time highs, and student loan repayments beginning again. Childcare expenses have skyrocketed to the moon as well.

None of this is surprising. FFXIV will be in trouble if Dawntrail does not change somethings up but right now this is a normal trend given everything listed above.

That's a lot of excuses for what is simply an unpopular expansion.

[Morphiana]

To you.

I like it, a lot of people here like it.

What's more likely? Your anecdotal experience being the primary reason people are leaving the game (despite you still being here it seems) or the number of factors including a multitude of really cool games that came out and the expansion winding down with some people leaving because they are not happy with the current state of things?

It's never just one reason if things aren't literally on fire and FFXIV is a far cry from being 1.0 again.

[Stormpeaks]

To you.

I like it, a lot of people here like it.

What's more likely? Your anecdotal experience being the primary reason people are leaving the game (despite you still being here it seems) or the number of factors including a multitude of really cool games that came out and the expansion winding down with some people leaving because they are not happy with the current state of things?

It's never just one reason if things aren't literally on fire and FFXIV is a far cry from being 1.0 again.

"My anecdotal experience" as both steamcharts and luckybancho show a huge decline.

Sure lmao

I stubbed my toe this morning. I blame yoshi P for it, might as well add that to your list of excuses

[Morphiana]

"My anecdotal experience" as both steamcharts and luckybancho show a huge decline.

Sure lmao

Do you... Not understand charts? The chart did not do any survey or show any data on why people have left the game.

What you're saying is correlational. You zero proof that your personal experience is what is causing a decline, you're making that assumption. "I'm not having fun, the game's popularity is in decline, ergo everyone else must not be having fun".

You also have zero proof that graph is accurate but we won't get into that.

Ultimately, that's not how it works.

What we know for a fact are some people are leaving due to not having fun, some people are leaving because the expansion is winding down (which is normal behavior shown in literally every MMO over the past two decades), and some people have been put into a financial position where playing a game is no longer a luxury they can afford. There have been mass layoffs, costs are going up, debt is higher than ever before, but sure the only reason people aren't subscribing is because they view the game exactly as you do and are quitting.

[Stormpeaks]

Do you... Not understand charts? The chart did not do any survey or show any data on why people have left the game.

What you're saying is correlational. You zero proof that your personal experience is what is causing a decline, you're making that assumption. "I'm not having fun, the game's popularity is in decline, ergo everyone else must not be having fun".

You also have zero proof that graph is accurate but we won't get into that.

Ultimately, that's not how it works.

What we know for a fact are some people are leaving due to not having fun, some people are leaving because the expansion is winding down (which is normal behavior shown in literally every MMO over the past two decades), and some people have been put into a financial position where playing a game is no longer a luxury they can afford. There have been mass layoffs, costs are going up, debt is higher than ever before, but sure the only reason people aren't subscribing is because they view the game exactly as you do and are quitting.

Yeah alright lol

Have a good one, have fun finding more and more ridiculous excuses as to why there is a decline.

I missed the bus this morning, I'm sure people quit the game as support to me missing my bus.

[Morphiana]

Yeah alright lol

Have a good one, have fun finding more and more excuses as to why there is a decline.

I missed the bus this morning, I'm sure people quit the game as support to me missing my bus.

For you:

https://www.jmp.com/en_us/statistics...tion.%E2%80%9D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg6e2Y3IEUk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQfacqVvOEM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbODqslc4Tg

[Renathras]

False data = valid data you disagree with because it doesn't fit what you believe in

Understood

No, it means data you want to be true because it supports your doomposting, but which is wrong.

[Renathras]

https://steamcharts.com/app/306130#All
https://steamcharts.com/app/238960#All
https://steamcharts.com/app/212500#All
https://steamcharts.com/app/582660#All


Roughly comparable games. But they do not show that sharp decline like FF14. So the reason for this decline in FF14 is propably not covid-19.



Cheers

No, those aren't roughly comparable games. They ARE MMOs, but none of those games had a player count inflation like FFXIV did, meaning they don't have those players to lose.