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  1. #1
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    Ggwppino's Avatar
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    Ggwppino Yarappoi
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    Louisoix
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Flana View Post
    You cannot fix demisummoning. Ghosting is a result of the any pet entity that has a hard cutoff, and that is exactly what demisummoning does. It summons and then kills a new pet, causing a hard cutoff. You can still ghost gem summons because the pet has to spawn in, then attack, then despawn at a specific time. Even if carbuncle literally did not exist, you can still easily ghost an ability from the demi/gem summons because of the absurd animation delay on spawn in and their refusal to retarget if something dies (such as an add) before the ability/auto goes off.

    You cannot seperate ghosting from the demisummon mechanic. It is an in-built feature, and somehow SquareEnix still hasn't figured that out yet.
    Why not?
    the elementals are one entity and the carbuncle is another entity. Physically in the game there could be 2 different objects. One for the carbuncle, one for the elemental.
    It doesn't exist now, clearly, it needs to be implemented, but with my subscription money they could.
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    Last edited by Ggwppino; 10-10-2023 at 07:57 AM.

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    Monokhrom's Avatar
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    Florence Rozurill
    World
    Ravana
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 96
    Please give summoner kaiten. It’d be sooooo funny!
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    Xio Zen
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    Zalera
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Would love to see smn get Shiva, Ramuh, and Leviathan as part of an enhanced rotation. Also in FFXI smn avatars could "skillchain" with each other. Would be great to implement a feature like this, when two different primals combo'd off of each other.
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    S'hozqha Kalaquaz
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    Shinryu
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    Arcanist Lv 2
    Quote Originally Posted by Xiozen View Post
    Would love to see smn get Shiva, Ramuh, and Leviathan as part of an enhanced rotation. Also in FFXI smn avatars could "skillchain" with each other. Would be great to implement a feature like this, when two different primals combo'd off of each other.
    Or have the option to combine any 2 egis, similar to what is seen in that one ShB trial... that'd be awesome too.
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    Chasingstars's Avatar
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    Zoh Chah
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 80
    Or just give Resurrection the gem-boon treatment. After you summoned Phoenix/Bahamut, it becomes instant cast but has a 60s cd.
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    Character
    Caius Megaflare
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    At this point, it's better to give 3 gems after Bahamut/Pheonix that can be spent on a choice of 6 elemental summons to truly introduce a strategic aspect.

    You could have 3 high-risk summons that hit hard and 3 summons that hit less but offer increased mobility to bring a real strategic aspect to the summoner, which is currently lacking in its gameplay.

    Garuda, Ramuh, Titan, "100% mobile." Ifrit, Shiva, Leviathan, "Various risk-taking," with gap closers,casts, and dashes out, etc...

    They could also introduce various elemental combos between the summons to benefit from different effects based on the chosen combination:
    stack of Ruin 4, damage over time on targets, personal buffs, charging a specific resource management that the Carbuncle will use by harnessing the aether from elemental combos, and more.

    The summoner could be a lot of fun if they decide to add a little bit more buttons and depth to the gameplay and of course delete physick and other useless button.

    They should also consider removing Energy Drain/Energy Siphon and replacing Aetherflow management by the new ressource management, and renaming Suppuration and painflare and transform it in 2-stack spells with shared cooldown like the redmage.

    After accumulating the aether from 3 elementals summon, it unlocks access to Carbuncle's trance.
    A Carbuncle ''OGCD'' appears and blesses the summoner with its aether accumulation, granting them 4 OGCD stacks that are on the same spell button.
    The summoner has 30 seconds to use these 4 stacks, which can be used during Phoenix/Bahamut.

    This also grants an automatic special attack to the next Bahamut/Phoenix, with Bahamut using "Megaflare" and Phoenix using "Flames of Unforgiveness."

    It's done quickly with Paint, so don't blame me; I have no talent for using editing software xD.
    Exemple:

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    Last edited by remiff; 10-27-2023 at 05:36 AM.

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    Myon Miya
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    Tonberry
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    Viper Lv 100
    Summon bahamut and summon phoenix need to be separate buttons (like in PvP). Casting one would lock you out of it until you summoned both, but it would let you choose how they fall into the odd and even minutes of the fight.

    Phoenix has very important healing utility, this would give you more control over when it shows up in a fight on top of rewarding knowledge of the encounter. If summoner is going to remain as simple to play as it is, this is the very least they can do - it's not like the job is hurting for hotbar space.
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    Last edited by Myon88; 10-29-2023 at 10:16 PM.

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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Myon88 View Post
    Summon bahamut and summon phoenix need to be separate buttons (like in PvP). Casting one would lock you out of it until you summoned both, but it would let you choose how they fall into the odd and even minutes of the fight.

    Phoenix has very important healing utility, this would give you more control over when it shows up in a fight on top of rewarding knowledge of the encounter. If summoner is going to remain as simple to play as it is, this is the very least they can do - it's not like the job is hurting for hotbar space.
    This would be a cool solution. I think they might save this one for another expansion, but they could make Bahamut give 1 'umbral aether' and Phoenix give 1 'astral aether', those would fuel a 3rd Demi to be used during the 2min marks. I suspect that the big feature for 7.0 will be a level 100 trait that will give new gems either after Phoenix, or a 'convert button' activated on demand.
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