Thread: Summoner 7.0 Wishlist

Let non Summoners turn your dumb pets off with an easily accessible toggle.

Delete demis on both smn and sch. They are stupid and keep breaking the pet ai.

Get rid of the gem stuff. Instead at the start of combat you get x casts of each primal, with weaker ones affording you more. The true ff summoner experience. The rotation will be spam bahamut while raid buffs are up, use your judgement to gauge what you can afford to burn between buff windows based on how many spell slots you have left and how fast the boss is dying. There will also be a degree of rationing bahamut/phoenix in longer fights. Won’t that be fun™ and engaging combat™? Ruin, energy drain etc are all deleted too, after all true™ and real™ summoners don’t do anything but drop a lardarse monster on the other team and wear an oddly phallic hat.

To accommodate the inherently bad, the total potency difference between the optimal rotation and fully random button presses should be no more that 5.

To allow the summoner full enjoyment of the animations- if for some reason they play with them on - all summons will have a 10s animation and recast. There will be no oGCDs either, after all the true™ summoner is from a turn based game and oGCDs are against the spirit of things. To compensate, perhaps the summoner could have a more involved cutscene with each cast, similar to the shinryu flying about qte. Of course they’d still have to do mechanics so the arena should be visible in a corner in a non-intrusive way.

Carbuncle will have to go of course. Chocobo, shiva, ramuh, ifrit, titan, odin, leviathan, bahamut only.
In keeping with the job as it stands, all 8 slots will be unlocked at 50 and every 10 levels following the number of allowed casts will simply be adjusted.

Summoner books are all now recoloured white mage weapons, scholar can have the models if it likes.

I can see no future in which this is not the most successful™ and adored iteration. After all it is the true™ summoner fantasy™ that everyone™ has been asking for for 10 years.

I may be completely wrong, but I have a feeling the new ‘Ranged’ is going be a caster job that completely revived the old-SMN DoT playstyle. Revolving around managing and interacting with DoTs, skills that get stronger based on dots applied etc.

It’d fill both the niche old SMN left behind, and it would address the fact that currently no DoT dps job exists in game, besides maybe Bard at a stretch.

Plus, it means people who preferred the old SMN still have something to go to for the same playstyle. While I personally prefer the current iteration of Summoner as a ‘foundation’ for what the job should be, I enjoyed the old Summoner as well, and it does feel unfair that the playstyle literally doesn’t exist anymore

A dot job would be cool, I don't think it will happen with how anti dot they have been recently but I would be glad to be proven wrong ... something like a Time Mage or even a Chemist that uses poisons.

Originally Posted by Connor

I may be completely wrong, but I have a feeling the new ‘Ranged’ is going be a caster job that completely revived the old-SMN DoT playstyle. Revolving around managing and interacting with DoTs, skills that get stronger based on dots applied etc.

It’d fill both the niche old SMN left behind, and it would address the fact that currently no DoT dps job exists in game, besides maybe Bard at a stretch.

Plus, it means people who preferred the old SMN still have something to go to for the same playstyle. While I personally prefer the current iteration of Summoner as a ‘foundation’ for what the job should be, I enjoyed the old Summoner as well, and it does feel unfair that the playstyle literally doesn’t exist anymore

i hope not, just give old smn back to the ppl that mained it and make the new job this braindead 1 button spammer.

Overhaul is needed.

I like the use of gemstones on the bar, keep that but include extra gems/egi assault skills for the Leviathan/Ramuh and maybe Bismarck too etc.

They should make new animations so that the Ruin 1/2/3 and Outburst/Brilliance attacks have magic effects that shoot out of your characters hand and not the book, which should be held in the opposite hand and away from the visual attack effect. The book needs to become somewhat the equivalent of the red mage's crystal focus, not a weapon itself. Ruin IV's and Painflaire's effects are fine though- it's about balance and having a spectrum of effects.

The auto attack should become a ranged zoosh of some kind- and make it a strong green seeing as the game doesn't have anything like that yet.

Summoner could use a teleport of some kind too. Make it work like Ninja's Shukuchis so you can choose how far to teleport. Reaper has a floating portal, ninja goes whoosh, BLM goes blerrr, Dragoon goes Fushhh with it's backflip, so summoner could bloop down into the ground and pop up at the chosen spot or something, or something similar to a teleport effect seen in the level 87 dungeon.

Make egi use tactical again and bring back the egi assault skills (including Titans shield exactly as it was). OR perhaps overhaul all the existing egis skills and they way they work, allowing you to also set and choose which egi is for what attack/strength, so someone can use an all-ifrit setup if they wanted to- the damage would be the same (this would require removing gem/aspects from attack names but is doable).

You know what would be interesting? In the advent of the 3 other gemstones, at level 100, we'd get an action that unlocked a special board (out of combat) circular interface where you could change the placement of each gemstone and Demi. Unprecedent feature, and highly unlikely, but it would add some nice interactions in that you have specific setups for different fights.

More realistically, if there's one old thing that I really wish reworked is the aetherflow system of SMN, because it just feels like some awkward remnant of the old SMN that works... but feels out of place (Festering... what exactly, since there's no dots anymore?).

I think I'd go along with any idea, as long as it could be more cohese with the rest of the kit.

Originally Posted by Raikai

You know what would be interesting? In the advent of the 3 other gemstones, at level 100, we'd get an action that unlocked a special board (out of combat) circular interface where you could change the placement of each gemstone and Demi. Unprecedent feature, and highly unlikely, but it would add some nice interactions in that you have specific setups for different fights.

More realistically, if there's one old thing that I really wish reworked is the aetherflow system of SMN, because it just feels like some awkward remnant of the old SMN that works... but feels out of place (Festering... what exactly, since there's no dots anymore?).

I think I'd go along with any idea, as long as it could be more cohese with the rest of the kit.

You just described the eureka magia wheel