The Endwalker patch content has been a series of experiments (and that's ok)

[Kaurhz]

It's always going to be experimental.

That's literally just the industry, round and round. You develop something, it hits or it doesn't... They continue it until they feel like it's a break - And then they repeat the same process with newer content. There's always going to be an element of dissatisfaction within a game

IMO though, the problem isn't that they are experimenting - The problem is that they just aren't drawing from the past game and past systems. Instead are looking at some parts of the game so insularly that it's hard to believe in some instances. e.g., why can't they try expanding logos/essences to other systems in the game? Why can't they include something such as sightseeing, solo treasure maps, or something similar to fetes (from Ishgard Restoration) in Island Sanctuary? -- Like why not?

It's really a shame because even something as simple as Island Sanctuary could've been a serious hit if they just elected to try and draw on past systems to elevate the content.

[Oizen]

I'd love for IS to be expanded, but what I don't want is to have to follow someone else's spreadsheet. That or randomly choose things until I get the 'efficiency bonus' for each item. That said, I doubt they'll continue it, I have a feeling the outdoor furniture was a final 'there you go, you got "instanced housing". have fun' before leaving it to rot, but I'd gladly be surprised.

They've already confirmed its not getting updated anymore. At most its getting the "Gold Saucer Updates" where you get some random item thrown into the cowrie shop every 4-5 patches.

Amazing really.

[Ivtrix]

if they learn from it, its fine

but experience it in real time has been very painful lol

[Raikai]

Isn't any new feature an 'experiment'? Given that there's no Public Test Realms in XIV like how it is in World of Warcraft, there's no way for them to get feedback on anything before it actually goes live.

If EW introduced a bunch of new features, it's only natural that we'd expect them to be improved in future expansions.

[vetch]

Bold of you to praise the Duty Support system in a thread about experimentality when its effect has been to reduce the variety that used to exist in dungeon fights.

[Noumenon]

If you read through the sections provided in IS, the game explains clearly how you get the efficiency bonus. You just have to engage with the content and work it out.

It's amusing that you think these words will be received in any manner. Unfortunately, the forums do not have a minimum requirement of being able to read and understand the content before making any comment on it. Which is why you have people who do not even know how to get an efficiency bonus by themselves, which is so astoundingly simple that we are led to alternative explanations for this phenomenon if they actually did try reading it.

[Alexandre_Noireau]

I't wasn't any experiment.
It was just lack of developers and resources.

That's all.

XIV is already a secondary proyect for SE. For Yoshida himself.

[Zairava]

I agree with the sentiment that's this expansion was experimental, and that it is indeed okay. (I'm among those that want them to take more risks, after all. Things can be adjusted)

What really got to me, until recently thanks to interviews, was the complete lack of input and responses from the team. That they actually just kept releasing the content without acknowledging our complaints for such a long amount of time. It would have been an easier pill to swallow if we had known sooner that they at least were considering the adjustments going forward at X time.

I'm still not thrilled I have to wait so long for job change information, but not really anything I can do about that. They seem set on keeping that behind closed doors until they feel like they're ready to announce them.

[Byron-Blackfyre]

while I appreciate a lot of the quality of life changes made by the developers, I must admit that I too feel like there's a lack of things to do other than use party finder to form groups and tackle content together.

[KitingGenbu]

People aren't looking at Endwalker's development realistically imo. Two major things were happening during Endwalker's continued development: 1) Yoshida was heading up FF16 still and trying to get that over the finish line, so to say that it didn't affect the expansion in some way would be an obvious lie. That in itself would already affect things pretty bad but you compound that with major thing 2) which is the pandemic. I know some people think that the pandemic is 'over' and things can go back to 'normal' but unless you only have your head inside of the game or this forum, the average person knows that EVERYTHING is still changing due to the pandemic and SE isn't an exception. Now as a consumer, should you care? Probably not. But to compare this expansion to those in the past is purely naive imo given that the situations they were developed in were GREATLY different.