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    Zarkovitch's Avatar
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    FF14 should learn from Palia to how....

    To make casual cozy content. Like for real, Palia is basically what sanctuary should have been. A place where a island need help to expanded. While expanding, you be meeting villagers who have different quirks and personalities. You can growth friendship via giving items or just talk to them daily, more the friendship is higher the more you know about this person via sidequest. At the end of max lvl friendship you something from them, like personal glamour piece or personal housing piece. Having a different leveling system on Sanctuary. Community interaction, such as Disciplines of the Land FATES like gathering amount of items to random villager(no worry it should have 5 mins stanby to give it to npc so ppl wont feel rushed.)or take object, do mini game with it and Disciplines of the Hand Recipes Raids (AKA Palia Cakes) by doing those activities you gain a new in game currency. This currency can be use to help villagers to expand they're houses,goals for the island. After helping them, they'll give you glams to get whenever you want such as hairstyle,gear and mount to thanking you expanded the island. And they give you a plot to interact for those dailies activities to gain the new currency (social social anxiety player),items for villagers or items for raid recipes.

    That would be cool content, but we have current Sanctuary.

    What y'all think if they decide to do a somewhat Palia ish content would you play it?

    For me I would play it.
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    Some months ago i said we should be able to marry or create bonds with NPCs.
    In FFXIV we have Custom Deliveries for that, way different from Lost Ark, Black Desert, Stardew Valley and Palia.
    They - ffxiv devs - may have a) technical limitations, b) laziness or c) lack of vision


    From business perspective, isn't worth it. They could hurt RP community by creating more appealing and charismatic NPCs (not hard tho).
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    Last edited by Elissar; 09-19-2023 at 10:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elissar View Post
    Some months ago i said we should be able to marry or create bonds with NPCs.
    In FFXIV we have Custom Deliveries for that, way different from Lost Ark, Black Desert, Stardew Valley and Palia.
    They - ffxiv devs - may have a) technical limitations, b) laziness or c) lack of vision


    From business perspective, isn't worth it. They could hurt RP community by creating more appealing and charismatic NPCs (not hard tho).
    I don't think FFXIV devs are lazy. Not at all. But I do think their vision doesn't align with the player base's desired vision.
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    99.99% chance probably a Titanman alt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonoki View Post
    I don't think FFXIV devs are lazy. Not at all. But I do think their vision doesn't align with the player base's desired vision.
    interesting fact: One more post and you reach 69
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    hope is the first step on the road to disappointment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonoki View Post
    I don't think FFXIV devs are lazy. Not at all. But I do think their vision doesn't align with the player base's desired vision.
    Part of it feels like a shift in outlook. Back in ARR and HW they seemed more concerned about what players wanted. These more recent years feel more like they're trying to tell us what we want.
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    I agree. I hesitate to ever call any devs lazy, but a lot of the content has been pretty uninspired lately.

    Looking at newer games and things that work (and don't, so you know what to avoid) would be a pretty good idea for them, I think. At the moment they seem to be stuck in their ways and pretty stubborn about stuff that should be looked at.
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    The FF14 Devs are not lazy but lack sight for a vision to make good content. The proof, ARR was somewhat a clone of WoW and did good as a game and succesful for his entry on MMOmarkert. Right now, they don't have anything to copy and transform à la FF14. That's why the game is dull right now. Copying certain Palia content would open a door of fresh air of idea to transform on this game.
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    If I wanted that, I would go play that game instead of posting about it on a different game’s forums.
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    There's a Balance to be met, I played palia back in its alphas.

    But it's all different today.

    What matters, is what they do with it today, or how the system allows them to potentially pivot, if they don't upgrade the foundations at all or not.

    [They never stated any foundational changes far as we know. so we can't say much on that end]

    Just like Island Sanctuary was never Meant to be a Stardew or the other game I forget. We had no need much additions since they never gave us an option in some regards

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    which is to say, sure, some aspect may help in certain content. but it wouldn't affect the overall game in a whole way.
    Leading to a variety of things that feed into things that don't necessarily give back to each other. thus becoming very rarely used, despite having many fans.(Like Criterions placement in the raiding/Gearing factor. or Island Sanctuary not necessarily having much to it that is personal, or complete and leave. asides from those of us who farm cowries.)
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    Last edited by GTK0HLK; 09-20-2023 at 08:13 AM. Reason: was hit by duty roulette

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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    Part of it feels like a shift in outlook. Back in ARR and HW they seemed more concerned about what players wanted. These more recent years feel more like they're trying to tell us what we want.
    "You think you do, but you don't." -J. Allen Brack
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