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    Hyperia's Avatar
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    Aileen Pureheart
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    If they have concerns about gear, they do not have to put in BiS, just glamours, lots of glamours, mounts, upgrade items, etc. Though I would not mind having an option to get a BiS level 2nd ring, good use of the system. Have it cost a few runs if they are worried.
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    Player NekoMataMata's Avatar
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    Feline Good
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    Paladin Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperia View Post
    If they have concerns about gear, they do not have to put in BiS, just glamours, lots of glamours, mounts, upgrade items, etc. Though I would not mind having an option to get a BiS level 2nd ring, good use of the system. Have it cost a few runs if they are worried.
    This would be the better way to go. If they add BiS equivalents to the current raid tier's gear then Crit will still die by the next expansion unless the gear is very nice looking.
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    This would be the better way to go. If they add BiS equivalents to the current raid tier's gear then Crit will still die by the next expansion unless the gear is very nice looking.
    I mean that’s an improvement over it dying the week it launched
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    Player NekoMataMata's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I mean that’s an improvement over it dying the week it launched
    It is, but there's value in giving content a longer life too. If the devs want to tell people to take breaks and make them feel comfortable about taking breaks, then they should be doing their best to ensure that the content is still healthy enough for people to play multiple expansions later.
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    Sid Zarkovitch
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    Criterion is not a long last content. It's should be alternative choice to gear faster. By all means it should be that way. This will help a lot with ultimates in near future due how garbage the current system is. Trust me, I try to recruit player for ultimates, it's was hard to find players due lack of a alt job gearing.The content do not need everlong last alive community like bozja/eureka/pvp content. It's just need to be a purpose. I do not understand why it's so hard to just accept certain content cannot be not everlast long community. Currently, the game lacks of midcore content and gearing issue with ultimate. Adding this will help with those issues.
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Midgardsormr
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    "wildly popular"
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    Ellisar Loravalur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    "wildly popular"

    Explore every location within Sildhin: 28%
    (specific boss defeat 36-50%)
    Players with Silkie mount: 17%


    Explore every location within Rokkon: 15%
    (specific boss defeat 19-28%)
    Burabura Chochin: 8.3%


    Criterion Sildhin: 6.0%
    Criterion Sildhin Savage: 1.1%

    Criterion Rokkon: 2.0%
    Criterion Rokkon Savage: 0.3%

    It's just a matter of rewards. There is no reason to do Variant or Savage.
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    Last edited by Elissar; 09-18-2023 at 02:22 PM.

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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elissar View Post
    It's just a matter of rewards. There is no reason to do Variant or Savage.
    I dont think it is, because criterion right now is actually one of the most time efficient ways to make gil in the game. The mounts sell higher than the PoTD horse.
    And if it was wildly popular, people would do it for the sake of doing it, not for rewards.
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    Noumenon Noumenon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    I dont think it is, because criterion right now is actually one of the most time efficient ways to make gil in the game. The mounts sell higher than the PoTD horse.
    And if it was wildly popular, people would do it for the sake of doing it, not for rewards.
    The thing is there's no point to making gil for a lot of people. However I agree with you for the most part. Personally, if I wanted to make gil, I would not be doing Criterion 25 times. It is insanely dull. I would rather do something that is more enjoyable (right now that's PvP and using mogtomes to by furniture).
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    Player Noumenon's Avatar
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    Noumenon Noumenon
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    Criterion isn't good content even if rewards are good. The mechanics in Criterion dungeons are recycled from Savage, and they're all extremely boring, apart from two this tier: Stormcloud Summons and Rokujo Revel, which are, finally something that is decently fresh. They are, however, better than Savage raids, which speaks to how lame, rehashed, and uninspired Savage is these days (the only exception in this entire expansion: P10S).

    Tanking in Criterion Savage also makes you realize how awful the netcode and tanking mechanics are in FF14. It is extremely cumbersome to drag mobs anywhere in FF14, and the bizarre decision to have such a high level of collision detection between mobs needs to be reversed ASAP.

    And the biggest failure of Criterion dungeons is that it is STILL a linear corridor with bosses doing scripted mechanics over and over again (again, Stormcloud and Rokujo are notable, and VERY welcome exceptions, but nowhere near enough innovation).

    Criterion is not innovative and frankly they are a massive downgrade from Delubrum Reginae Savage. If you intend to get all the rewards (i.e. grind Criterion 25 times for the mount), it gets extremely repetitive and boring quickly.
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    Last edited by Noumenon; 09-18-2023 at 02:32 PM.

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