Criterion Dungeon Interview

[Maltothoris]

So we just got a little interview about Variant and Criterion recently here

https://www.inverse.com/gaming/ffxiv...eons-interview

Of course the biggest thing to take notice of is

That said, the difficulty of Criterion Dungeons is comparable to an eight-player Savage raid, if not harder, so there were also comments that felt the current rewards aren’t motivating enough to attempt the content.

The rewards need to be determined very carefully in relation to rewards for other content, but we will continue deliberating on the idea to satisfy as many players as possible.

So they are aware that rewards are lacking but its sadly is going to take some time for that to change.

[Supersnow845]

Square are so terrified of upending the current balance of the gearing system they haven’t stopped and realised that power in this game is worthless and almost nobody cares about it

Put BIS in criterion; literally nobody would think it’s a negative

[Swordsman]

So we just got a little interview about Variant and Criterion recently here

https://www.inverse.com/gaming/ffxiv...eons-interview

Of course the biggest thing to take notice of is

So they are aware that rewards are lacking but its sadly is going to take some time for that to change.

Yep, criterion and variant are pretty much one and done for now. No sense in doing it repeatedly until there's some incentive to do it.

[Hyperia]

If they have concerns about gear, they do not have to put in BiS, just glamours, lots of glamours, mounts, upgrade items, etc. Though I would not mind having an option to get a BiS level 2nd ring, good use of the system. Have it cost a few runs if they are worried.

[Oizen]

"wildly popular"

[Elissar]

"wildly popular"

Explore every location within Sildhin: 28%
(specific boss defeat 36-50%)
Players with Silkie mount: 17%


Explore every location within Rokkon: 15%
(specific boss defeat 19-28%)
Burabura Chochin: 8.3%


Criterion Sildhin: 6.0%
Criterion Sildhin Savage: 1.1%

Criterion Rokkon: 2.0%
Criterion Rokkon Savage: 0.3%

It's just a matter of rewards. There is no reason to do Variant or Savage.

[Noumenon]

Criterion isn't good content even if rewards are good. The mechanics in Criterion dungeons are recycled from Savage, and they're all extremely boring, apart from two this tier: Stormcloud Summons and Rokujo Revel, which are, finally something that is decently fresh. They are, however, better than Savage raids, which speaks to how lame, rehashed, and uninspired Savage is these days (the only exception in this entire expansion: P10S).

Tanking in Criterion Savage also makes you realize how awful the netcode and tanking mechanics are in FF14. It is extremely cumbersome to drag mobs anywhere in FF14, and the bizarre decision to have such a high level of collision detection between mobs needs to be reversed ASAP.

And the biggest failure of Criterion dungeons is that it is STILL a linear corridor with bosses doing scripted mechanics over and over again (again, Stormcloud and Rokujo are notable, and VERY welcome exceptions, but nowhere near enough innovation).

Criterion is not innovative and frankly they are a massive downgrade from Delubrum Reginae Savage. If you intend to get all the rewards (i.e. grind Criterion 25 times for the mount), it gets extremely repetitive and boring quickly.

[Recon1o6]

interesting to note they design it for savage not extreme level difficulty like a lot of people thought/wanted

its good that they got to think outside the box when designing though. fight design is stale rn so getting them out of their comfort zone even for a little thing is good long term

[Noumenon]

interesting to note they design it for savage not extreme level difficulty like a lot of people thought/wanted

its good that they got to think outside the box when designing though. fight design is stale rn so getting them out of their comfort zone even for a little thing is good long term

What in Criterion is them getting out of their comfort zone? I see nothing. A very confused <Ascendant Ascetic> here.

Criterion Sildhin: 6.0%
Criterion Sildhin Savage: 1.1%

Criterion Rokkon: 2.0%
Criterion Rokkon Savage: 0.3%

It's just a matter of rewards. There is no reason to do Variant or Savage.

Please don't tell me you got these statistics from xivcollect or lalachievements.

Unless you seriously, seriously believe with a straight face that >15% of players have cleared at least one Ultimate.

It should probably be adjusted downwards by at least 80%. That is, the people who cleared Rokkon Savage is probably at around 0.05% (if you have to ask why please Google the problems with using xivcollect as a frame of reference).

[Payadopa]

Square are so terrified of upending the current balance of the gearing system they haven’t stopped and realised that power in this game is worthless and almost nobody cares about it

Put BIS in criterion; literally nobody would think it’s a negative

But they are also afraid of making the game fun by giving us interesting abilities because meta slaves will pop a coronary. Sorry, guys, you can't have more than 1 2 3 because then raiders might parse less. They don't even release potency changes because people go ape shit. If anything it's par for the course how they act, really.

Honestly, I don't envy them.