I'm One Of The Filthiests Of Casuals And Even I Can See How Dumbdown FF14 Has Become!

[Rolder50]

Look, you can either have a limited number of in depth classes with balance or a ton of more generic classes with balance. You cannot have both, WoW has taught us that, the work load becomes insane after awhile.

The more classes and abilities you add the more you have to account for. 1 class is not just 1 more thing to worry about, a new class comes with a ton of abilities you'll have to worry about and how they interact with everything from other jobs to the enemies in the game. That's just PvE, it doesn't even include PvP balancing. The more unique you make it, the harder it will be to tune. The more time they spend tuning class balance the less content you'll get so they make the classes easier to tune thus more generic.

If you want more depth to your classes and more strategy behind the game play then it's best to start asking they slow down on new class releases. Otherwise, it'll become more generic with each subsequent class they put out.

I don't buy that argument in FF14. The stats and buffs we have are so painfully generic and plain that there is no way tuning takes that much time. Especially compared to WoW where you have crazier buffs like +40% haste and stats like mastery which is different for every spec.

[Sebazy]

I don't buy that argument in FF14. The stats and buffs we have are so painfully generic and plain that there is no way tuning takes that much time. Especially compared to WoW where you have crazier buffs like +40% haste and stats like mastery which is different for every spec.

In fairness, balancing the books on a lemonade stand would probably be a challenge for CBU's worn out and understaffed job design team at this point, and that's before we touch on the clear deficiencies in the testing and validation team as well =(

[EgilTheStressedMage]

I feel this way about a lot of jobs. Normally I am excited about what new actions an expansion will bring but lately I've been more terrified about which skills are getting removed more.

Removed Black Mage: Too confusing for new players.

[Rolder50]

Removed Black Mage: Too confusing for new players.

Nah, Yoshi-Ps main would never be touched.

[ChonkGoblinSuprem]

How disgustingly insulting to say that….

[ForteNightshade]

I don't buy that argument in FF14. The stats and buffs we have are so painfully generic and plain that there is no way tuning takes that much time. Especially compared to WoW where you have crazier buffs like +40% haste and stats like mastery which is different for every spec.

You say that and yet it took five patches and a complete rework for them figure out the tank balance. And they still flubbed it with Paladin. Nevermind the infamous, "Caster balance" statement as Red Mage languishes.

[Aravell]

Look, you can either have a limited number of in depth classes with balance or a ton of more generic classes with balance. You cannot have both, WoW has taught us that, the work load becomes insane after awhile.

I don't think I've ever seen anyone ask for absolute balance. Most people just want a fun job that can clear content, that's all. The devs have been shaving out all the unique bits of every job just to make balancing for them easier, nobody has been asking for this, nobody wants their job to become same as other jobs in the name of balance.

[Rolder50]

You say that and yet it took five patches and a complete rework for them figure out the tank balance. And they still flubbed it with Paladin. Nevermind the infamous, "Caster balance" statement as Red Mage languishes.

The caster balance is entirely their own fault because of raise tax.

[Supersnow845]

I don't think I've ever seen anyone ask for absolute balance. Most people just want a fun job that can clear content, that's all. The devs have been shaving out all the unique bits of every job just to make balancing for them easier, nobody has been asking for this, nobody wants their job to become same as other jobs in the name of balance.

Hey square enix can we maybe try to avoid a repeat of Gordias where you made one tank physically useless for all of the content that requires a tank

So what I’m hearing is you want every job to be exactly the same in the name of balance so you are relying on crits in the burst window to meet wonky DPS checks

[Deceptus]

You say that and yet it took five patches and a complete rework for them figure out the tank balance. And they still flubbed it with Paladin. Nevermind the infamous, "Caster balance" statement as Red Mage languishes.

It took them five expansions to figure out that Living Dead was the worst tank invulnerability, that it actively punished non WHM healers.