Byolisis and Miracle of Nature needs to go (Frontlines)

[AnnRam]

This is a pvp mode where you have to engage people and think carefully about how to move or when to attack.

Why for the god sake Scholars can stack 3-4 Byolisis from 20km away, hide and end up with 4 millions of damage at the end of the match?, its a massive debuff that deals damage over time and also reduce your own damage paired with 3-4 SCH's that won't show up in combat because its easier to spam their debuff from the backline.


And of course MON needs to be placed as Limit break because has the same killing potential than MNK Limit break ( Isn't about damage, it locks you in place for 2-3 seconds unable to escape) but in 30 seconds.

[ThaCa]

Frontlines is getting a rework in 7.0

It currently uses Crystalline Conflict abilities with arbitary damage reductions slapped on people, don't expect much.

[Eisi]

Frontlines is getting a rework in 7.0

It currently uses Crystalline Conflict abilities with arbitary damage reductions slapped on people, don't expect much.

You're saying Frontlines will get their own set of abilities? I haven't heard that before, would be huge.

[Eastwall]

Lol, all that needs to happen is to cap aoe skill to 5 targets.

[SweetPete]

You're saying Frontlines will get their own set of abilities? I haven't heard that before, would be huge.

I haven’t heard this either.

[Valence]

This is a pvp mode where you have to engage people and think carefully about how to move or when to attack.

Why for the god sake Scholars can stack 3-4 Byolisis from 20km away, hide and end up with 4 millions of damage at the end of the match?, its a massive debuff that deals damage over time and also reduce your own damage paired with 3-4 SCH's that won't show up in combat because its easier to spam their debuff from the backline.


And of course MON needs to be placed as Limit break because has the same killing potential than MNK Limit break ( Isn't about damage, it locks you in place for 2-3 seconds unable to escape) but in 30 seconds.

Millions of damage means nothing if it doesn't lead to any kill. That's why what's meta is actually alpha strike damage (DRG LB, AST LB/damage combo, SMN LB, etc). Damage over time effectiveness is very hard to gauge. When you get an assist from it, was that kill actually helped by the dot, or would it have happened regardless? Damage padding in FLs can be interesting, but ultimately like in CC, it doesn't tell the whole story. Imo a single SCH even when dealing like 4M damage over a game will rarely bring that much (unless they also heal, support etc). Start stacking them however, and I do think the pressure becomes actually very real because it gets closer and closer to an actual, strong alpha strike (burst) that makes it way harder to retreat and just heal out of it.

Miracle of Nature is an aberration and should be changed or deleted in every game mode, period. They keep nerfing it without nerfing what makes it broken, which means very little in fine.

[Llynethil]

Bio leads to easy bh which leads to higher bio damage that actually does become pretty noticeable if you pay attention to it and can easily force you to disengage and heal up during fights, allowing the enemy to push harder as more people have to retreat to heal back up which is also pretty valuable to push people off spots.

[Valence]

I do agree, but I also do think that a single scholar, even BH5, does feel like an annoyance at most, like a mosquito. You need more of them to generate an actual cloud of death.

[FenyxRising]

This is a pvp mode where you have to engage people and think carefully about how to move or when to attack.

Why for the god sake Scholars can stack 3-4 Byolisis from 20km away, hide and end up with 4 millions of damage at the end of the match?, its a massive debuff that deals damage over time and also reduce your own damage paired with 3-4 SCH's that won't show up in combat because its easier to spam their debuff from the backline.


And of course MON needs to be placed as Limit break because has the same killing potential than MNK Limit break ( Isn't about damage, it locks you in place for 2-3 seconds unable to escape) but in 30 seconds.

Skill issue.

SCH is useless in Frontlines, and Miracle requires the WHM to get into melee range at which point it's very easy to kill.

None of these are big issues


thank u, next

[Mayhemmer]

Skill issue.

SCH is useless in Frontlines, and Miracle requires the WHM to get into melee range at which point it's very easy to kill.

None of these are big issues


thank u, next

You don't have nearly the post count I'd expect from a habitual baitposter. Just getting your career started, huh?