Xenosys Vex explains how to save the game

[Noumenon]

Them not being FUN is your opinion

I happen to find them FUN

Is that SO hard to believe

See I can also capitalise and embolden random words

You mostly do Baldesion Arsenal, no? You mentioned this a while back.

Most people dislike the mob grinding part of Eureka, not BA.

If you're actually talking about the mob grinding part, that is insane. At launch most people hated the basic Anemos gameplay. I have fond memories of it not because of the gameplay but because of the social aspect. The basic Eurekan field content gameplay in Endwalker is literally killing basic mobs with only auto-attacks with neutered job kits that are extremely braindead.

If somehow you are defending that, and if somehow a lot of current FF14 players are defending that, then there is no hope for this game ever getting better. Because that is the most braindead, shallow, unengaging, and tedious type of content one can imagine. I'd even say it's duller than Variant dungeons.

The good parts of exploratory content, like Bozjan duels, Lost/Eurekan actions, the raids - these are concepts that should be kept.

Farming overworld mobs and FATEs? No thanks. FF14 needs to move past that horrible garbage.

[Supersnow845]

You mostly do Baldesion Arsenal, no? You mentioned this a while back.

Most people dislike the mob grinding part of Eureka, not BA.

If you're actually talking about the mob grinding part, that is insane. At launch most people hated the basic Anemos gameplay. I have fond memories of it not because of the gameplay but because of the social aspect. The basic Eurekan field content gameplay in Endwalker is literally killing basic mobs with only auto-attacks with neutered job kits that are extremely braindead.

If somehow you are defending that, and if somehow a lot of current FF14 players are defending that, then there is no hope for this game ever getting better. Because that is the most braindead, shallow, unengaging, and tedious type of content one can imagine. I'd even say it's duller than Variant dungeons.

The good parts of exploratory content, like Bozjan duels, Lost/Eurekan actions, the raids - these are concepts that should be kept.

Farming overworld mobs and FATEs? No thanks. FF14 needs to move past that horrible garbage.

I’m a BA host, that doesn’t mean that’s all I do in field content, I do bunnies, I do the money NM’s, I help new players in anemos with my elemental armour, I reflect sprites in Bozja for money, I come up with new ways to increase my farming efficiency with Bozja mobs, I got 10/10/10 I got delubrum delver, I do CLL and dal when they come up, I Death Star mobs, I spawn CE’s for different fragments

Is it really that hard to believe that just because we don’t all share your opinions on things on field content doesn’t mean nobody likes it

I have my problems with eurkea and Bozja but they are still my favourite content

[Theodric]

I'd like to highlight the story as a major point of interest to me where Bozja is concerned. I liked that Matsuno was brought on board since FFXII has long been my favourite of the Final Fantasy titles.

I also quite enjoyed the atmosphere of the associated raids.

[AurisNix]

Apparently Variant and Criterion is fun and new but died in less than a week, everyone arguing about whats fun or not but at the end is all about personal perspective but is better to have the option instead of just dropping them, imagine VC dungeons just randomly disappear from the game i really doubt would make a huge impact in the game, but go ahead delete bozja/zadnor/eureka and im sure alot of people wont be happy because that content remain more active than VC or anything EW released, Delubrum in pf shows up way more than criterion, Bozja gives you objectives and rewards gives you something to work for and to actually pay attention to the fights, Bozja relics revamped old content, made pf more alive and even gave an excuse to use BLU that for me made the grind way more fun, some of the grinds were obnoxious (Delubrum grind specially) but with some fixes here and there could have been a good content better than just capping tomes, why do we need content when there is already good ideas in FF, they have BLU, they have the old relics systems (ARR,HW,SB,SHB) they have instance areas that are useful for whatever you wanna do either be glams leveling relics or midcore raids and fights. Xenos has good points too there is no reasons to do alliance raids or Extremes even if you are a dedicated casual you will only get a coin to get a twine or shine once per week like wtf? (If you are a raider you literally have no reason to do it more than once cuz you probably already have better gear); why not being more innovative with the rewards in those contents? Why casuals cant get BiS from alliance or Variant dungeons, why gatekeep people, Bozja had gear too that was 5 levels under BiS wich was good enough was a good reward better than capping tomes for tome gear. In EW i became a savage raider and i reached the point that i only raid log and its depressing, im not burn out on FF i wanna play FF but the game has nothing to offer nothing to look forward to, no rewards to work for, the best content in FF right now is old content, i would rather go back to my casual player days in shb cuz i had way more fun than a raider in EW.

Fun or not doesn't mean anything at all if it doesn't have replayability, rewards, sense of progress and satisfaction at the end of it. EW had nothing of that everything in EW is numb content that you can basically do blindfold and gets boring after a couple days.

[Noumenon]

I’m a BA host, that doesn’t mean that’s all I do in field content, I do bunnies, I do the money NM’s, I help new players in anemos with my elemental armour, I reflect sprites in Bozja for money, I come up with new ways to increase my farming efficiency with Bozja mobs, I got 10/10/10 I got delubrum delver, I do CLL and dal when they come up, I Death Star mobs, I spawn CE’s for different fragments

Is it really that hard to believe that just because we don’t all share your opinions on things on field content doesn’t mean nobody likes it

I have my problems with eurkea and Bozja but they are still my favourite content

And you should have higher standards. FATE farming and basic mob grinding in 2023 is unacceptable.

[Supersnow845]

And you should have higher standards. FATE farming and basic mob grinding in 2023 is unacceptable.

Field content isn’t perfect, I want improvements on it I’m so glad EW improved on Bozja….oh wait

I can both enjoy old field content and want future field content to be better, if you can’t see that then maybe you need to stop talking as if your ideas are the grand majority

[Themarvin]

It is not his game, it is something the clown need to accept.

It is like having a totally random person walking into your house and suggesting and starting to re-decorate it and tell you to buy this or that... do this and that... and more.

It is not acceptable behaviour.

[Supersnow845]

It is not his game, it is something the clown need to accept.

It is like having a totally random person walking into your house and suggesting and starting to re-decorate it and tell you to buy this or that... do this and that... and more.

It is not acceptable behaviour.

It’s just as much his game as it is yours, what kinda argument is this

[Carin-Eri]

It is not his game, it is something the clown need to accept.

It is like having a totally random person walking into your house and suggesting and starting to re-decorate it and tell you to buy this or that... do this and that... and more.

It is not acceptable behaviour.

Not the best anaology.

I'd say it's more like someone walking into McDonalds and telling you that the Big Mac Meal is best and that's what you should order... when all you really wanted was a McChicken sandwich and a coffee.

[NekoMataMata]

I scoffed a bit at the term "saved".


Don't misunderstand me. The game could be so, so much better and there are a lot of things in EW+ patches that I dislike. I just think it's a bit egotistical to claim yourself to be a savior of anything, especially when we're discussing something like video game content where we're all opinionated.