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    Player Aword3213's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by CStrife912 View Post
    Can we pin this comment if the opposite happens lol also now we will have Xbox players...I wonder how much or little they'll impact numbers. Also your assuming something that we don't know yet give it a few months :P
    Someone can always resort to freshly created account to start anew and pretend nothing happened.

    Never make bets with people like that. If they happen to be right, "I told you so" threads are bound to stay on the first page of the forum for weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CStrife912 View Post
    Can we pin this comment if the opposite happens lol also now we will have Xbox players...I wonder how much or little they'll impact numbers. Also your assuming something that we don't know yet give it a few months :P
    If Dawntrail is more successful than EW i will take the hit for the team and necro this thread to give OP a told you so. xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinglessSeraphim View Post
    That guy is pretty hot as long as he's on mute.
    Bald is beautiful as they say
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    Quote Originally Posted by CStrife912 View Post
    Can we pin this comment if the opposite happens lol also now we will have Xbox players...I wonder how much or little they'll impact numbers. Also your assuming something that we don't know yet give it a few months :P
    Wow you really are on some mega copium.
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    Player Aword3213's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by FenyxRising View Post
    Wow you really are on some mega copium.
    And you're on giga copium thinking this game would somehow get any better with your banal criticisms. Spoiler alert. It would not

    Doomsayers has been claiming FFXIV is dying for years, yet they are still here, thinking their doom posts would somehow help CBU3 improve this game in anyway. It would not

    What drives them to post? The slightest and faintest hope that someone from SE would some day happen to read the forum and by chance decide to foward your feedback among other 10000+ similar posts to the game director Yoshi-P, even when it's been made known that SE never listen to any feedback

    Prime example of copium overdose if I ever seen one
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    Last edited by Aword3213; 09-17-2023 at 05:36 AM.

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    People are complaining that game is too formulaic when that is all the game has EVER been.

    Since the dawn of Eorzea, we run old content over and over again. They reskin content (story mode, hard mode, extreme mode). We run roulettes for exp/tomes that is content from 2013-2023. We all know that new level X0 crafted gear will be the same iLvl as story mode raid, and tomestone gear will be 10 above that and augmented tomes/raid gear is another 10 above that. We all know that 24-man raid gear will be same iLvl as the tomestone gear. We all know we'll need to clear whatever tier normal raid 7 times for the weapon upgrade. We all know that body/legs tomestone gear costs 825, other left-side 495, accessories 375.

    We all know that the new raid tier will be 4 bosses with the last one likely have 2 phases. We all know that the 24-man raid will be 4 bosses with 2 trash pulls between. We all know that about twice per expansion to expect a new MGP mount. We all know that the extreme trial bosses will drop mounts and if you collect all of them, you get a special mount...

    We all know that we'll get from 90-100 running MSQ with almost no other exp needed in-between. We all know to hold onto 4000 hunt marks right before an odd number patch since we can buy the items we need for augmented gear.

    All of this has been the case since ARR. And it was the case in HW... then SB... then ShB... then EW. I mean, it has been like this for 10 years. And SE made a boatload of money all the way.

    Why would anyone expect the formula for success that they've followed so far to be changed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    People are complaining that game is too formulaic when that is all the game has EVER been.

    Since the dawn of Eorzea, we run old content over and over again. They reskin content (story mode, hard mode, extreme mode). We run roulettes for exp/tomes that is content from 2013-2023. We all know that new level X0 crafted gear will be the same iLvl as story mode raid, and tomestone gear will be 10 above that and augmented tomes/raid gear is another 10 above that. We all know that 24-man raid gear will be same iLvl as the tomestone gear. We all know we'll need to clear whatever tier normal raid 7 times for the weapon upgrade. We all know that body/legs tomestone gear costs 825, other left-side 495, accessories 375.

    We all know that the new raid tier will be 4 bosses with the last one likely have 2 phases. We all know that the 24-man raid will be 4 bosses with 2 trash pulls between. We all know that about twice per expansion to expect a new MGP mount. We all know that the extreme trial bosses will drop mounts and if you collect all of them, you get a special mount...

    We all know that we'll get from 90-100 running MSQ with almost no other exp needed in-between. We all know to hold onto 4000 hunt marks right before an odd number patch since we can buy the items we need for augmented gear.

    All of this has been the case since ARR. And it was the case in HW... then SB... then ShB... then EW. I mean, it has been like this for 10 years. And SE made a boatload of money all the way.

    Why would anyone expect the formula for success that they've followed so far to be changed?
    The world would be a much, much worse place than it is today if we just accepted the status quo.
    ''Ah you know, it's always been like that.'' Is not a good outlook on life. That mindset kills innovation and improvement.
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    Player Kyrj's Avatar
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    You know what would really help the game? Is if SE would stop locking new side content behind a massive MSQ wall. Why is it that they learned this lesson for new jobs but not things like say Eureka Orthos? We had a massive influx of new players which is good, that means that they'll be able to start grinding out things like Bozja, Zadnor, Eureka, PotD, HoH, EO, and so on......once they finish the MSQ which takes a lot of time for most of those to even be available and some of them require more than just MSQ (Bozja needing a whole raid and side story). The problem is as we're waiting for newer players to get to that point of say Eureka Orthos, you have players who are already at that point, leaving the game because it takes 75 mintues to even get into EO. And I get it, a lot of these things have a big overarching story attached to them but at some point the MSQ starts to hurt the game more and more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyrj View Post
    You know what would really help the game? Is if SE would stop locking new side content behind a massive MSQ wall. Why is it that they learned this lesson for new jobs but not things like say Eureka Orthos? We had a massive influx of new players which is good, that means that they'll be able to start grinding out things like Bozja, Zadnor, Eureka, PotD, HoH, EO, and so on......once they finish the MSQ which takes a lot of time for most of those to even be available and some of them require more than just MSQ (Bozja needing a whole raid and side story). The problem is as we're waiting for newer players to get to that point of say Eureka Orthos, you have players who are already at that point, leaving the game because it takes 75 mintues to even get into EO. And I get it, a lot of these things have a big overarching story attached to them but at some point the MSQ starts to hurt the game more and more.
    Problem is almost all of that side content is basically hidden unless you know it exists to actively unlock it.
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    Player Aword3213's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troxbark View Post
    Problem is almost all of that side content is basically hidden unless you know it exists to actively unlock it.
    I lose track of it sometimes. I have to go through the patch notes just to find where those side contents are.
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    Last edited by Aword3213; 09-17-2023 at 07:07 AM.

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