Dancer feels great to play

[ErisGalaxy]

Heyo! I've been playing Dancer for quite a while now and I just had to say, it's great. The flow of the rotation is really nice and the number of buttons is just right for me.

I think Tillana and Fan Dance IV are a bit out of place, given you can only use them once per burst rotation and they just seem to be there for the sake of more buttons, but honestly it's a very minor thing. The Technical Step rotation flows really nicely and I enjoy it a lot. I do however hope that there won't be new buttons added just for the sake of new buttons like these two.

That's all, I just like Dancer. Thank you for reading~ <3

[Raikai]

Heyo! I've been playing Dancer for quite a while now and I just had to say, it's great. The flow of the rotation is really nice and the number of buttons is just right for me.

I think Tillana and Fan Dance IV are a bit out of place, given you can only use them once per burst rotation and they just seem to be there for the sake of more buttons, but honestly it's a very minor thing. The Technical Step rotation flows really nicely and I enjoy it a lot. I do however hope that there won't be new buttons added just for the sake of new buttons like these two.

That's all, I just like Dancer. Thank you for reading~ <3

I think the Tillana situation is okay... Couild've been more but hey. Thing is that the Technical Step window is already at capacity both on Esprit and oGCDs - I can't really think about anything else that can be added inside the TS unless they rework old abilities, which often does not bear well for jobs that are considered good already. Fan Dance IV to me seems a bit redundant to have. It could easily have being a FD3 upgrade, but I guess the reason it exists as a separate entity is that they didn't want to give FD3 charges for when you Flourish. If that's so, I wish it had something extra to it, just to to be a complete clone.

Maybe the Dancer has space for gameplay additions outside of the TS moments. A new dance to alternate with Standard Step maybe?

The only old thing I'd like rework is actually Closed Position (or an upgrade Closed Position II), to be made like the PVP iteration, that you can use it freely as an ogcd. A CP optimization would probably be more impactful than the clunky way it is nowadays and a desirable thing to reach for.

[Tsumdere]

I think I would prefer Tillana to be removed from the being exclusively in the TS window and moved into an oGCD with a 1 min CD that gave 50 Espirit. That way your odd minute Flourish window would have a little more meat to it. It would also benefit TS window because getting low procs of Espirit during your 2 min is legitimately so painful. Sometimes you can get tons of Saber Dances in TS, and sometimes only 1 or 2. It really sucks to be on the receiving end of that, especially since Saber Dance is so important to your 2 min, so I would like to see some sort of adjustment to that.

Closed Position being oGCD is also needed. It would make playing DNC at a higher level even more fun. Right now DP optimization is very hard to do and only really viable during downtime transitions which aren't present in a lot of Savage fights.

[Raikai]

Closed Position being oGCD is also needed. It would make playing DNC at a higher level even more fun. Right now DP optimization is very hard to do and only really viable during downtime transitions which aren't present in a lot of Savage fights.

Agree. Just look how engaging CP is during PVP, it really gives a whole different layer of awareness to know who you should be CPing at any given moment.

Of course, in PVE I doubt it would be as dynamic, given of how scripted it is, but at least you'd have more engagement in, for example, CPìn'g certain people for their odd minute mini bursts (i.e. Trick Attack), or if your main CP is having a weakness debuff.

[Tsumdere]

Agree. Just look how engaging CP is during PVP, it really gives a whole different layer of awareness to know who you should be CPing at any given moment.

Of course, in PVE I doubt it would be as dynamic, given of how scripted it is, but at least you'd have more engagement in, for example, CPìn'g certain people for their odd minute mini bursts (i.e. Trick Attack), or if your main CP is having a weakness debuff.

For sure. If it had a way to transfer Standard immediately to your new partner, it could have some really cool niche plays along the same vein as flashing Improv. Just more avenues for people to show their mastery of the job.

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Regardless, even just being able to freely swap DP would be a great way to raise the skill ceiling without changing the skill floor at all for people who play more casual DNC.

[Dakuryon]

I'm glad you're enjoying Dancer! It's one of my favorite classes too

[Nav_Fae]

People might hate me for this. But I kind of wish I didn't have to do the tech step "dance steps" every single time I wanted to tech step. Like I know it's dancer and that's the point but idk. It gets dull and old after a while imo. Especially pre-pull Standardstep when people won't give you a proper countdown. I do agree that Tillana and Fan Dance IV feel just there. Same with Starfall dance being locked behind Devilment. I also feel like Improvisation is another filler button that probably get's used the least.

[Raikai]

raise the skill ceiling without changing the skill floor at all for people who play more casual DNC.

That is my hopes for the future of most jobs (SMNs please!), to be honest. Everyone deserve to have that little extra "skill attic" that is even beyond good play but rewards a bit more of DPS. Exactly what BLM's Transpose Lines is. Not a requirement to complete any kind of dps check (if your party is pulling their weight that is), but a nice goal for overachievers.

[Raikai]

People might hate me for this. But I kind of wish I didn't have to do the tech step "dance steps" every single time I wanted to tech step. Like I know it's dancer and that's the point but idk. It gets dull and old after a while imo. Especially pre-pull Standardstep when people won't give you a proper countdown. I do agree that Tillana and Fan Dance IV feel just there. Same with Starfall dance being locked behind Devilment. I also feel like Improvisation is another filler button that probably get's used the least.

What if Technical Step gets a 7.0 upgrade that adds a damage component to each step? Maybe it wouldn't feel like that. But yeah, on random duty finder parties not having a countdown is bad not just for DNC, but everyone else. Not that it matters a lot in the end because on those groups people rarely play tightly around the 2min meta.

I don't really mind Starfall dance being like it is, but why on earth Devilment doesn't turn into Starfall Dance is beyond me. Improv is more useful nowadays, because at least you can use the small regen, but I still think Improv when situationally used for its full effect should be much stronger than what currently is - even a full channeled shield is puny, and to be honest, the shield healer in your party is probably offset that by a huge margin because they'll cast GCD shields during that downtime anyway. Improv could probably have the shield replaced by mitigation - 1% for every channeled tick.

[Bad_Luck]

It's probably my favorite class these days.