Required to read Guides?

[Boblawblah]

[SannaR]

I feel this. As I'm not sure what low level boss mechanic or even trash pack aoe they could have died to. This almost feels the same as someone else's recent complaint about a different player knowing how a Nier Boss works.

Anyway no people shouldn't need to read guides for MSQ stuff Extremes and 8 man raids sure. Course there is duty support if you don't want to look up guides as the npcs will move to safe spots for avoiding aoes. There is also very little to go on in this incident as we don't know if you're under geared for the dungeon or have been using mitigation. I know you didn't ask about advice on how to improve. I wonder if there are any updated guides for the lower dungeons post QoL changes or not. As most AoEs should be fairly easy to see and to avoid in the early levels. Unless you have lag then only luck or a quick thinking healer is going to save you. Maybe... probably.

[Tuvarlson]

Thanks for all your opinions on this. Thankfully i recorded the fight and was able to analyse what went wrong.

First of all, to clarify some things: It was Haukke manor, Boss Manor Claviger. It was not a single mechanic that killed me... the healer went afk before the fight and i didnt notice, so i started the fight. On top of that i got hit by his big aoe which i thought i had interrupted, but that wasnt the case. 2 things i learned in that fight:

1) Wait for afk players
2) Move out of big aoe attacks

I know my death was absolutely my fault, that was not the point of ths thread. Its just about that other player telling me to read guides... i dont want to read guides, especially for story content. However I will read them for harder endgame content though, just to not be a burden for others.

[ZephyrMenodora]

Thanks for all your opinions on this. Thankfully i recorded the fight and was able to analyse what went wrong.

First of all, to clarify some things: It was Haukke manor, Boss Manor Claviger. It was not a single mechanic that killed me... the healer went afk before the fight and i didnt notice, so i started the fight. On top of that i got hit by his big aoe which i thought i had interrupted, but that wasnt the case. 2 things i learned in that fight:

1) Wait for afk players
2) Move out of big aoe attacks

I know my death was absolutely my fault, that was not the point of ths thread. Its just about that other player telling me to read guides... i dont want to read guides, especially for story content. However I will read them for harder endgame content though, just to not be a burden for others.

If your healer wasn't AFK you would have easily survived, so just chalk it up to that. A new tank testing out what mechanics can be interrupted is a good thing in the long run, and you wouldn't normally die from being hit by one AE in a low level dungeon.

Being rude to others is never acceptable though, and most people aren't quite as nasty to new players. Hope you enjoy the rest of your journey as you learn.

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Thanks for all your opinions on this. Thankfully i recorded the fight and was able to analyse what went wrong.

First of all, to clarify some things: It was Haukke manor, Boss Manor Claviger. It was not a single mechanic that killed me... the healer went afk before the fight and i didnt notice, so i started the fight. On top of that i got hit by his big aoe which i thought i had interrupted, but that wasnt the case. 2 things i learned in that fight:

1) Wait for afk players
2) Move out of big aoe attacks

I know my death was absolutely my fault, that was not the point of ths thread. Its just about that other player telling me to read guides... i dont want to read guides, especially for story content. However I will read them for harder endgame content though, just to not be a burden for others.

Yo, a cool thing you can do for lots of early game bosses and dungeon trash is use your actions 'Low Blow' to stun an enemy trying one of those big Aoes instead of avoiding them. This can help your teammates as well, so they don't have to also dodge. Stun won't always work, especially on Big bosses or later in the game, and enemies can only be stunned like 3 times per 90 sec if they ARE vulnerable to it.

Likewise, an enemy cast bar that's kinda 'shakey' is meant to be interrupted by Interject, and that can benefit you from reducing damage incoming to building limit break gauge to preventing a full party wipes on some later boss fights.

Just gotta make sure it's ready to use if you commit to stunning or interrupting.

[TaleraRistain]

Thanks for all your opinions on this. Thankfully i recorded the fight and was able to analyse what went wrong.

First of all, to clarify some things: It was Haukke manor, Boss Manor Claviger. It was not a single mechanic that killed me... the healer went afk before the fight and i didnt notice, so i started the fight. On top of that i got hit by his big aoe which i thought i had interrupted, but that wasnt the case. 2 things i learned in that fight:

1) Wait for afk players
2) Move out of big aoe attacks

I know my death was absolutely my fault, that was not the point of ths thread. Its just about that other player telling me to read guides... i dont want to read guides, especially for story content. However I will read them for harder endgame content though, just to not be a burden for others.

Been a minute since I tanked that one, but if it's a big glowing red bar for the cast, then you'll interrupt instead of stun. Interrupt is Interject and stun is Low Blow. Low Blow will work on most normal non-red cast bars.

Don't read guides for story content. The only reason it's a thing for Extremes and Savage and stuff is that those fights are harder versions of the originals so you already have seen the mechanics in the original. But you'll still find completely blind PFs because people like to figure things out. You're a ways off from having to worry about that, so just enjoy the MSQ for now.