So uh..why does this forum hate FFXIV youtubers so much?

[Bonoki]

The entire first few pages is filled with people mocking the anti-streamers before you see someone actually answer the question. Can't get a serious answer to the question when everyone is mocking them before they even get a chance to write their response. You just all cause them to hate from the shadows that way.

I just think the whole thing is silly. These forums use to be very anti-streamer just because the streamers were always praising the game including it's faults. This was exceptionally true during the Asmongold and WoW Refugee era. But the VERY MOMENT Zepla makes a video the anti-streamers agreed with, suddenly they turn to her defense and act like it's the shills that hated the streamers the whole time, not them. It's constantly back and forth and I have seen both sides hate on the streamers at one point or another. I really hate how hypocritical these forums get, often changing their stances only based on the current flavor of the month. If these streamers were saying the game was perfect despite all the criticism of the game on these forums, they would be the ones making streamer hate threads. The real reason people dislike Youtubers is because they don't feel like they as a person get accurately represented through these Youtubers and the Streamers will collab with like-minded people and often spread takes that they might not agree with. Which then the devs see and assume it's the global opinion of the community as a whole.

Tl;dr people think streamers brain wash their viewers into group think.

[ChonkGoblinSuprem]

Because they have been spamming this forum with inane bs trying to drive viewers to their videos. Get a real job.

[Carin-Eri]

Because they have been spamming this forum with inane bs trying to drive viewers to their videos. Get a real job.

Have to admit, whilst I don't have anything against her - four videos on what is essentially the same topic does give something of a 'desperate for engagement' impression at this point.

[Canadane]

It also probably doesn't help that people will link to a video and say "this is my opinion" instead of just articulating their own opinion on things.
Even if it's word for word the same ideals as someone who made a video, you can at least type it out if your opinion means any value to yourself.

But I also have the same thought process of people who'll reply with a meme image instead of coming up with their own reply.

[Fawkes]

But I also have the same thought process of people who'll reply with a meme image instead of coming up with their own reply.

[TaleraRistain]

It also probably doesn't help that people will link to a video and say "this is my opinion" instead of just articulating their own opinion on things.
Even if it's word for word the same ideals as someone who made a video, you can at least type it out if your opinion means any value to yourself.

I'm pretty much neutral toward streamers. This is my only issue. What kind of discussion is it opening up? If someone outlined points made and then offered their own perspectives, that's something a forum conversation could be built on. Instead it's just tossing out a video "X says this!" Well, I don't really care what X says. I care what you, as the OP, says. I'm not really getting that from these posts.

[LianaThorne]

Since no one seems to have brought up my viewpoint on it yet, I'll add to the conversation.

My issue is moreso related to their content genre than anything else, which is reaction content. If you go on Zep's or Arthars channels (for example), it's filled with "X reacts to...."

I view this content type to be extremely lazy and also why I take issue with creators such as SSSniperwolf who are profiting off of other people's thoughts and work.

I view FF content creation (outside of maybe Pint and a few of the DoH/DoL channels) to be lackluster and why my views tend to go into other places (like Spiffing Brit, RTGame, DougDoug, Let's Game It Out, TheEpicNate, etc.) because they provide actual entertainment, audience engagement and original content.

If certain FF YouTubers dropped the "reacting to x" all the time and added in some original content (hell, Zepla could literally do a stream where her viewers decided her Genshin resin burning for the day and I'd be more interested in watching that then her reacting to another reddit/forum/youtube comment thread) my opinion would probably change and I personally would probably watch them more. As of right now, I don't feel a need to.

[Canadane]

Para-social relationships.
Padding videos out.
Repeating content among other videos.
Pushing out content before they should because they gotta be first.
Simps or perhaps undercover PR hired by the youtuber who'll push out their content, such as you see in some topics here.

It's not just FFXIV youtubers, it's youtubers in general.
People who stream/content create as a full time job is going to want you as a dollar value, not as anything else.

I've long since made the affirmation that I'll never monetize my youtube account. Feel free to like and subscribe to my channel, but it won't net me profit.
I like making videos as an extension of this game as a hobby. I do not play/stream as a job. Once it's a job, it's no longer a hobby.

[Thurmnmurmn]

Although the poster may indeed be a forum troll, the subject of the video still reaches out to many.
A lot of threads get out of hand because people already go into defensive/attack mode solely based on the name of who posted the thread. Then people assume everyone who disagrees with them is an alt.

Essentially, people make their responses based on who posted it instead of the actual substance of the post.

[Mr_Gyactus]

I really don't understand it.

Do you live in a black or white world?

It is not "hate", it is "I don't care about a random guy/girl opinion".
I apply the same concept at 99.99999999% of the world population.