So uh..why does this forum hate FFXIV youtubers so much?

[SquishyPlushie]

I don't care either way or another. I can form my own opinion thus I don't need another to tell me what it should be. I have met people who can't form their own opinion so they always find someone else to tell them how they feel. However...

Sometimes it's good to see what they say cause they can put your own opinions and feelings into better words than your own. That said I just find youtuber content creators to be annoying and pander to their audiences.

The problem is half the front page is just alt accounts at any time. Hence you get a post like this asking why the forums are stuck on one topic when it's often one very bored person doing it all.

[Sigma5]

Cause their assessments are usually accurate, just like conspiracy theorists and people don't like that. ahem (shills).

[IvoryHawk]

"Nobody talks bad about my final fantasy!" unsheathes katana, basically as soon as a streamer stops slurp glurping, the NPC's come out in full force

[Fawkes]

I don't watch any of them and I don't care what they said.

[Jeeqbit]

I doubt this forum hates youtubers at a greater frequency than anywhere else. Every one of them has their share of haters. Although I think some youtubers attract it a lot more due to their characters being deliberately controversial.

I don't personally watch them much for information purposes because I'm not exactly new to the game. Mostly just for entertainment purposes, or to see what they think in the very same way I read here to see what people think, or confirm that I understand a strategy people want to do.

[DivineP]

I don't think that's the case. There's the occasional 'troll', certainly, though as someone who has posted here consistently over the years I've never struggled to have meaningful discussions and debates with various individuals. I've even managed to make quite a few friends here who play on completely different servers/datacentres who I otherwise would not have met if not for posting on the official forum.

I'd say in terms of toxicity, there's far more to be found over on the likes of Twitter and Reddit which regularly allow individuals to say far more abhorrent things than they would get away with here.



Given that many people in a shared household play MMO's together using the same IP, I'm not sure that'd work out very well at all.

Yet the post below yours speaks volumes.

Constructive discussion when?

[SquishyPlushie]

Constructive discussion when?

When people aren't allowed to flood the forums with alt armies to farm reacts off people for fun.
It's hard to engage in proper discourse when you know that's happening.

For instance, when I left actual feedback, the posts were immediately farmed for argument loop reacts. People who do this know who they are, don't need to name names at this point, and I think at this point they want their name to passed around like some form of notoriety.

This is amusing considering you came back right as NekoSenpai got banned, and abuse thread tags just like he did.

Sir or Maam, you're in a thread where I'm explicitly asking for alt hopping to be blocked, which I very much doubt alt hoppers would want. I am myself, and only myself, and starting to get the feeling I'm the only one using one account.

As well, I legitimately don't know you or the names you've mentioned. If you see tags from more than one person being the same there's a good chance it's because there's a trend of posts ongoing, and people are trying to identify the types of posts, regardless of author.

It would also be prudent to stop this conversation before your continued callouts identify as harassment.

[Noumenon]

flood the forums with alt armies

This is amusing considering you came back right as NekoSenpai got banned, and abuse thread tags just like he did.

[Noumenon]

Sir or Maam, you're in a thread where I'm explicitly asking for alt hopping to be blocked, which I very much doubt alt hoppers would want. I am myself, and only myself, and starting to get the feeling I'm the only one using one account.

Oh please, NekoSenpai was literally writing thread tags like "ban evaders be gone" when he ban evaded from RaenMan. You're beginning to sound more and more like him.

[Lauront]

Yet the post below yours speaks volumes.

Constructive discussion when?

When SE can be bothered to moderate their own forum properly... and even then, it's still better than the other sites he mentioned. Reddit being something of a meme in terms of how it's moderated.