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    Ranaku's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Funny enough, gaming itself has slowly become a blight on the genre in general. Its not just youtubers and streamers.

    Back in the old times we didnt have such easy access to social media and online communities to be toxic or annoying. Back then, you only had word of mouth in school or that circle of friends you shared small bit of game stuff from magazines and such and it was honestly a lot more healthier than how its handled today imo.

    Games are taken so seriously now
    I mean we saw that with the latest starfield controversy about pronouns where both parties just used the drama to push their agenda. Instead of just letting a game be a game.

    Back then we just enjoyed a good game for being a good game and not cause of some political implications no matter if left or right. But thanks to the internet we have now this unified stupidity.
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    It's just a thing on any MMORPG forums. WoW, FF14, GW2, ESO, you name it they hate youtubers. There could be a youtuber who makes videos about all the minions in the game and where to find them and the forums would still hate them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyrj View Post
    It's just a thing on any MMORPG forums. WoW, FF14, GW2, ESO, you name it they hate youtubers. There could be a youtuber who makes videos about all the minions in the game and where to find them and the forums would still hate them.
    It's all kinds of people on any form of social media, including these forums. There WILL be people who hate them, and the streamers and youtubers are aware of it because to reiterate on something that someone said a long time ago:

    "FFXIV Players are unable of accepting criticism about their game."

    It has turned into a negative stereotype for people who play XIV, and has been prevalent historically when I've interacted with players of all kinds across all NA DCs. The moment you speak ill or critically of the developer or of the game, they will come out of the woodwork to defend it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima View Post
    The moment you speak ill or critically of the developer or of the game, they will come out of the woodwork to defend it.
    Perhaps it's because their viewpoint is different?

    You do realize that this sentence implies that those who you disagree with should "stay in the woodwork ... where they belong", right?

    Congratulations, your meaning was read and acknowledged.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorky View Post
    Personally I would rather have Ren explain why he disagrees and he is respectful mostly about it, then read " someone else on this forum say they are going to share every streamer link and if you don't like it you are not in charge of the forums capiche? "
    You know of whom I speak.
    Glad to know you are so upset about Zepla. Zepla haters are everywhere !
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    Quote Originally Posted by FenyxRising View Post
    Glad to know you are so upset about Zepla. Zepla haters are everywhere !
    Oh I'm so upset {^•^} thank u next
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    The word "hate" is used frequently these days to cover a range of emotions that start at "mildly disagree with X" to "mildly annoyed by X" to "would destroy X if it was in my power".

    I assume the OP was throwing the word around without understanding which emotional range they meant to convey.

    I'd wager that there are a large number of people who totally ignore YouTubers. Or go to YouTube for the memes and laughs. There are also a number of people who religiously follow YouTubers (or other Social Media celebrities).

    I personally enjoy watching K-Pop music videos. Go Stray Kids!

    For FFXIV, Larryzaur videos were fun during the early years of the game. I prefer practical videos from MTQcapture and Meoni's videos can be very useful.

    I've always seen Zepla as more of a Streamer than a YouTube personality ... probably because of the format of her videos.

    Frankly, if I want an opinion about something in the game, I'll generate my own. No need to know, or care, if Mrhappy1227 agrees with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    The word "hate" is used frequently these days to cover a range of emotions that start at "mildly disagree with X" to "mildly annoyed by X" to "would destroy X if it was in my power".

    I assume the OP was throwing the word around without understanding which emotional range they meant to convey.

    I'd wager that there are a large number of people who totally ignore YouTubers. Or go to YouTube for the memes and laughs. There are also a number of people who religiously follow YouTubers (or other Social Media celebrities).

    I personally enjoy watching K-Pop music videos. Go Stray Kids!

    For FFXIV, Larryzaur videos were fun during the early years of the game. I prefer practical videos from MTQcapture and Meoni's videos can be very useful.

    I've always seen Zepla as more of a Streamer than a YouTube personality ... probably because of the format of her videos.

    Frankly, if I want an opinion about something in the game, I'll generate my own. No need to know, or care, if Mrhappy1227 agrees with me.
    ^^^this all of this^^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    The word "hate" is used frequently these days to cover a range of emotions that start at "mildly disagree with X" to "mildly annoyed by X" to "would destroy X if it was in my power".

    I assume the OP was throwing the word around without understanding which emotional range they meant to convey.

    I'd wager that there are a large number of people who totally ignore YouTubers. Or go to YouTube for the memes and laughs. There are also a number of people who religiously follow YouTubers (or other Social Media celebrities).

    I personally enjoy watching K-Pop music videos. Go Stray Kids!

    For FFXIV, Larryzaur videos were fun during the early years of the game. I prefer practical videos from MTQcapture and Meoni's videos can be very useful.

    I've always seen Zepla as more of a Streamer than a YouTube personality ... probably because of the format of her videos.

    Frankly, if I want an opinion about something in the game, I'll generate my own. No need to know, or care, if Mrhappy1227 agrees with me.
    Exactly. The reason why I like Zepla, as much as I agree with many of her points, is not about that, but because she is just fun to watch. Honestly, with XIV there's not even a whole lot to produce content for. We know it's like that when we see people doing 'coverage' of new mogstation additions in a 10min video lol.
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    I don't hate any of them. Course, I don't really follow them and the biggest ones are trying to diversify nowadays anyway. Not to mention certain ones that want FF14 to add in FOMO and such into it like WoW does for some reason.
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