Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
It is sort of relevant because it is actually fair to say that extremes are pretty midcore and many people do them that wouldn't do savage.

The problem is when someone says they are not doing any "high-end" content, either due to time or anxiety, and are left with practically nothing else to do. The problem is also when a raider wants to relax and not do something as serious or organized as a raid, but that isn't as boring and samey as the same expert roulette dungeon for months.

Having something that transitions people from the normal content to high-end content would be good and all, but it's not even all about getting them to do the high-end content, because some people just want normal content that requires more effort and time and teamwork, but that isn't asking you to go and form a static or suffer PF wiping to the same mechanic for months when you can get through it easily. What they achieved with Eureka and Bozja was something that fit that pretty well and it made the expansions feel alive, unlike where we are now where we can solo a lot of the EW content and also be done with it pretty fast.
Another good take - definitely need some transition content between being able to essentially be carried by competent players and your presence not even mattering in all the normal-level content, and content where your personal accountability and skill needs to be at a certain level - while at the same time not being so challenging that people can't figure it out within a couple hours and succeed in a pug.