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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    Nah, it'd be limited by MP. The shields cost quite a bit of MP.
    EuDiag>Toxi costs only 50 MP/GCD over Dosis. If you spammed it as often as possible short of overcapping Addersting, it'd cost only 1200 more MP per minute than using no healing spells at all.

    Respectfully disagree. SGE already has very limited GCD healing options.
    Something already being limited is not an excuse to limit it further, nor a mitigating factor to those further limitations' relative costs on gameplay. It's usually the opposite.

    The only thing that would be reduced is that Cure 1 and Medica 1 would be less used in favor of Adlo and Succor...but this is ALREADY the way things are.
    You know full well that's not the case in any serious content. The effect isn't just that you use the blatantly superior options that exist now, but you'd use almost only ever the blatantly better-still option that you'd have just recreated, because healers operate as a pair.

    If one healer can freely spam ST healing but not AoE healing and the other has can freely spam neither, then the one with the relative advantage in ST will take up that much more ST duty and pass along that much more AoE healing to be done to the other. The only exception to this is where both healers somehow need to AoE GCD heal within the very same single GCD of time after impact for the raid to survive (i.e., basically never, even with increased healing requirements), instead of being capable of the more efficient combined action wherein the healer less penalized, relatively speaking, for AoE GCD healing does all the necessary AoE GCD healing.

    If you make Eukrasian Diagnosis free and nothing else, you'll see more use of EuDiag and less (if any) of anything else.

    Inb4 "But you defended people using GCDs when necessary even when it's a loss, so why wouldn't people still use the other GCD options!" Why? Because the others wouldn't be necessary outside of the aforementioned incredibly rare situations. You will thereby have reduced the number of competitive choices by overpowering the single choice among many.


    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    Eukrasian Prognosis can also generate Addersting when its barrier on you breaks, so SGE would also have unlimited DPS neutral AoE healing.
    It'd be bottlenecked by incoming AoEs, whereas EuDiag can far more reliably get you to 3 of the 4 suggested maximum Addersting stacks, but yes, my saying that Ren's suggestion would only give SGE more than double its free ST healing and some double WHM's total free healing in practice was technically lowballing its overall power increase.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 09-18-2023 at 05:59 AM.

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