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    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    I agree. Which is why we should have one healer whose gameplay revolves around utility and support rather than DPS
    Here's the problem I have with that - many people aren't asking for that (some are, I'll get back to them).

    In essence, people have told us, collectively, what they want:

    1) Some people want more DPS rotation.
    2) Some people want more buffing/debuffing/support gameplay.
    3) Some people want more healing gameplay.
    4) Some people like things as they are.

    You are in camp (1) and suggest the solution to people in (2), (3), and (4) is to give them one healer Job that does (2). The problem is, "utility and support rather than DPS" isn't the answer for (3) or for (4). It's only an answer for (2). So it doesn't appeal or address the concerns of people in (3) and (4) at all. In some cases, it may appeal more than (1) does, but that's like asking a person if they want to be burned alive or electrocuted to death, and if they ask for lethal injection, firing squad, or not being put to death, you offer them the electric chair and are confused why they don't want that option, either.

    What you're missing is the fundamental reasons that players who oppose (1) do so in many of the cases.

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    Besides, I've been on board with all of your proposals other than not having at least one healer that works as they do today.

    A) I've fully supported giving SCH its SB kit back (INCLUDING beneficial changes since like Expedience; the recent Healer Forum thread was asking about a different thing, but I do actually support "SB SCH with benefits", as it were).
    B) I've fully supported giving AST its SB kit back and/or your other AST change proposals to make it more buffing focused.
    C) I've even supported your suggestions for changes to WHM or to SGE to give them more "Caster DPS"-like gameplay.

    I've supported most of your positions in ways you may not have realized through me saying I don't want all of them or my critiques about individual elements.

    The one thing I haven't supported is changing all the healers away from the current gameplay (or leaving only AST as it is, because it's the least popular with people who actually enjoy the current paradigm and is generally the go-to pick for people who do not).

    My own view is SCH to be "SB with benefits", AST to embrace the buffing gameplay, and either SGE or WHM (but not both) to embrace a more dps rotation (as opposed to SCH's DoT based priority system), ideally SGE since Kardia already allows it to be modified into a Discipline Priest fairly easily.

    I've also been entirely clear on this. Many multiple times. So I'm a bit confused why you say yet again I'm not.
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    Last edited by Renathras; 09-17-2023 at 05:48 AM. Reason: EDIT removed part of quote I missed

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