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  1. #21
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    Firkmann Solksthalsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    WHAT. MECHANIC. ARE. YOU. REFERRING. TO.

    Because I can tell you what it’s tell is if you stop dodging the question
    Serial-jointed Command Model: Energy Assualt.
    Please tell me how you determine the "tell" of which player this aoe targets to allow the cheater to move 5+ seconds ahead of time away from them before anyone else knows who the target is? Please tell me how! I want to know this "tell" you claim to know regarding this specific mechanic I observed!

    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    They won't answer because then people can disprove it without a shadow of a doubt.

    Not saying mods that tell you what you need to do don't exist...but we are saying THIS instance did not happen.
    Remind me...what were you saying again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    When energy assault is about to occur the boss will turn in a specific direction regardless of where the tank is standing (a common tell a mechanic is about to happen) then he will contract and start spitting out the AOE’s, you generally have about 3 seconds to resolve it before you get hit and they specifically don’t do much damage so you can afford to get clipped by 1 or 2 trying to get out of them

    It’s a rather short tell but the idea is there is no reason to be far away from that boss except in the rotating satellite phase so if you stay close to him it’s easy to dodge the mechanic
    I literally saw the cheater move away from the player who was going to be targeted 5+ seconds before the boss even changed the direction he was facing to the opposite side! Mostly every other player in the raid did not move for the aoe until they saw the direction change of the boss like everyone else. Yet you want to still claim that this was done without addons? Yea right...

    I get so freaking tired of others making excuses for those who cheat!(Because more than likely they are a cheater themself!)

    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    Well there you go. Supersnow finally got a mechanic name and told ya what you need to do. Like 99.9 percent of these are scripted dances...you learn the steps and you become so good people start to assume you are cheating.
    WRONG! He explained nothing on how another player can move 5+ seconds from the targeted player to the opposite side while most of the other players in raid only moved once the boss moved the direction it faced for the aoe!
    Keep making excuses for cheaters...I find it very sus why you do!
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    Last edited by TheRealMadruck; 09-11-2023 at 12:53 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck View Post
    Serial-jointed Command Model: Energy Assualt.
    Please tell me how you determine the "tell" of which player this aoe targets to allow the cheater to move 5+ seconds ahead of time way from them before anyone else knows who the target is? Please tell me how! I want to know this "tell" you claim to know regarding this specific mechanic I observed!
    When energy assault is about to occur the boss will turn in a specific direction regardless of where the tank is standing (a common tell a mechanic is about to happen) then he will contract and start spitting out the AOE’s, you generally have about 3 seconds to resolve it before you get hit and they specifically don’t do much damage so you can afford to get clipped by 1 or 2 trying to get out of them

    It’s a rather short tell but the idea is there is no reason to be far away from that boss except in the rotating satellite phase so if you stay close to him it’s easy to dodge the mechanic
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  3. #23
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    Sounds like a witch hunt.


    Don't get me wrong, I know these things exist, and I dislike that they exist, but you are capable and allowed to provide information about the scenario you're talking about as long as you don't start giving player's names(naming and shaming).

    It's not like the majority of fights in this game aren't scripted either. I've run certain fights so many times at this point that I naturally know when most mechs are going to happen without paying much attention.
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    Last edited by NekoMataMata; 09-11-2023 at 12:40 PM.

  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    When energy assault is about to occur the boss will turn in a specific direction regardless of where the tank is standing (a common tell a mechanic is about to happen) then he will contract and start spitting out the AOE’s, you generally have about 3 seconds to resolve it before you get hit and they specifically don’t do much damage so you can afford to get clipped by 1 or 2 trying to get out of them

    It’s a rather short tell but the idea is there is no reason to be far away from that boss except in the rotating satellite phase so if you stay close to him it’s easy to dodge the mechanic
    It also has a cast bar.....
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck View Post



    Remind me...what were you saying again?
    Well there you go. Supersnow finally got a mechanic name and told ya what you need to do. Like 99.9 percent of these are scripted dances...you learn the steps and you become so good people start to assume you are cheating.
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyrebrand View Post
    Regardless of what specific mechanic OP is referring to, the main point is simply about using mods to cheat in general. I don't see the point in getting angry and quibbling over details. If it's possible to do that in ANY content, then OP has made their point. Didn't we just have an incident where someone in a "world first" Ultimate team was caught using mods to cheat?
    The issue is that fabricating stories about people supposedly cheating doesn't actually provide any awareness benefit when it's something everyone already knows about that hasn't lived under a rock isolated from the world for the past 25 years. People have made cheat engines and tools for every game out there, people are going to download and use them. Game companies do things to try and stop it and it doesn't work for more than a short period of time before said tool makers find away around the new prevention steps.

    This is was basically just an attempt to start a witch hunt coupled with a cry for attention.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrysOCE View Post
    I am so super confused. Like, they are talking about AoEs.... Does he mean the central or side AOEs, from the 1st boss in Copied Factory? The one that, if you watch the cast bar, tells you whether it is centrifugal or sidestriking? You know, central being central and side being side?? no, there is no telegraph... other than the cast bar???
    YOU CAN READ THE CAST BAR?!?!?!??! CHEATER!

    but...seriously...do people use mods to cheat? yes, almost everyone knows they do. think the OP is spending too much time watching other people play and not enough time, you know... watching for AOE's
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  8. #28
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    Not even a good attempt. Of all content to cry that people need mods for, to help them perform, an alliance raid?!? Could have said, oh, people are using mods in EX, Savage, Ultimate.... but alliance raids?? XD
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    YOU CAN READ THE CAST BAR?!?!?!??! CHEATER!

    but...seriously...do people use mods to cheat? yes, almost everyone knows they do. think the OP is spending too much time watching other people play and not enough time, you know... watching for AOE's
    Lol, and apparently anyone not buying his story is now a cheater as well. Despite the fact I've had nothing but a clean install of this game since the beta's before 1.0 even released... Apparently visual prowess and memorization are now 3rd party cheat tools
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  10. #30
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    Darkobra Kage
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    I'm absolutely the first one to laugh at people needing an add-on to tell them where the yellow circle's going to be that tells them where an attack's going to be and they STILL act like there's challenge to this game. This thread is just filled with way too many holes in the story, like you're using a napkin over a phone's receiver to disguise your voice to tell us the mailman's delivering mail.
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