Let's talk about Atma

[SaltyDaddy]

My Atma grinds never took more, than an hour. Maybe you were extremely unlucky, but I think you are just exaggerating.

I still think that Atma, even when it was much bigger grind when it was current content, was better for open world content, then current relic. The current non RNG system is just so boring I didn't even touched them for more, than one weapon and waiting for next expansion, where they will be a poetic sinks.

[Striker44]

My Atma grinds never took more, than an hour. Maybe you were extremely unlucky, but I think you are just exaggerating.

I still think that Atma, even when it was much bigger grind when it was current content, was better for open world content, then current relic. The current non RNG system is just so boring I didn't even touched them for more, than one weapon and waiting for next expansion, where they will be a poetic sinks.

Right, there's the dilemma devs face. Some people find the current system of tomes boring and don't engage with it. Others are the opposite. For example, I got all of my base ARR relics, but I only ever did the next step for one of them precisely because I just find the RNG Atma grind frustrating. Meanwhile, I'm actively queuing for extra roulettes, doing more hunt trains, etc. these days because I like the tome system and am looking to upgrade a Manderville weapon all the way for each class I have at 90 (I think it's 6 right now).

[Nebelheim]

Atma grind was a lot worse on release it's a lot better then it was.

[Folko]

Atma grind was a lot worse on release it's a lot better then it was.

I don't disagree, but it can still be a lot better imho.

[Nebelheim]

I don't disagree, but it can still be a lot better imho.

rng is rng no matter how much the odds are increased of obtaining something there will always be a chance it will take awhile to get something. The only other solution is to hand them out with a 100% drop rate which i don't see happening. There needs to be some sort of grind regardless of how old or how long something has been out.

[Mithron]

I enjoyed Atma much more than all of Eureka or Bozja combined, and I wish EW's relic at least cost 4000-5000 tomes each instead of 1500, or even better required a new currency similar to Umbrite that you got from roulettes.

[SaltyDaddy]

I enjoyed Atma much more than all of Eureka or Bozja combined, and I wish EW's relic at least cost 4000-5000 tomes each instead of 1500, or even better required a new currency similar to Umbrite that you got from roulettes.

Wow. How would that make current boring relic better?

[Mithron]

Wow. How would that make current boring relic better?

Because without it, I'm already done before I even start. The point of no Eureka/Bozja is that this system allows us to do actual more fun content than being forced into something terrible. If a wider variety of activities was available, such as with mog tomestones, then we'd be able to choose how we want to grind our relics.

[Darkobra]

Just remember this is it POST-nerf and we legit had it worse back in the day. This is meant to be it BETTER AND FASTER!

[Rehayem]

Am I the only one who had no issues farming Atma? I just spent an entire day as BRD farming the fates and got all of it done same day. Maybe I was lucky, but I think the book grind is worse.