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    Quote Originally Posted by Sindele View Post
    Ideas are cheap, easy, and can be conjured up regardless of reality. Implementation is expensive, difficult, and must reckon with the world as it exists, not as it is imagined.

    Not only is the value proposition for this basically zero, undertaking it would actually seriously take time away from developing new content, unlike half the time that complaint gets trotted out by people who don't know any better.
    Yet people strongly believe these ideas hurt the game for not being a thing. And feel like SE doesn't listen. They say the game is in such a bad state at the moment, because they are aren't listening to feedback. So is the game better now without the input of these people, or is it worse off because all of these ideas arnt being implemented? And if their ideas were in the game would it improve?
    I wish there was a sort of Crystal ball or something where we could just see the future, if some of these proposed ideas would benefit the game and its playerbase. Cause Im personally curious to see it, since they so strongly believe it would make FFXIV better. .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyrebrand View Post
    ." Square Enix should not base their decisions on the course of the game based on feedback from a tiny minority.
    Be careful, certain posters dont like that phrase XD
    But hey, apparently so many people share these feelings. Not saying they dont exist, but it would be nice to see them, just so there is at least a tangible metric.
    Maybe if there was one it would convince SE and CBU3 to react to it.
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    Friel Wyndor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Be careful, certain posters dont like that phrase XD
    But hey, apparently so many people share these feelings. Not saying they dont exist, but it would be nice to see them, just so there is at least a tangible metric.
    Maybe if there was one it would convince SE and CBU3 to react to it.
    Well, to clarify, I'm not saying CBU3 should never be experimental or that they should never cater to a niche audience. But developing new content or new game mechanics/systems is never cheap. I can't see them putting stuff into a PTR that they aren't already committed to launching in the official product. The PTR would be more about working out the kinks, it wouldn't be to throw in some random ideas and see if people like it.

    What sort of ideas would you suggest they use this for? I see a lot of comments asking for a new Bozja-type zone, but there's no way they're going to develop a whole new one of those, with new stories, new dialogue, new visual assets, new FATEs and bosses, "just to see if players like it," and then scrap it if they don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    That is why we are putting it to the test, to see if it really is worth the salt people value it as.
    I of course cant say what will or could be successful and work long-term, but people believe they are solutions. We should test it and see.
    The reason I bring this up is because the game already has multiple pieces of content that aren't nearly as impressive in the full length of their existences as they were on release.
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    I like how everyone says "new content is not cheap" or "implementation is not hard".


    No it's not, the funds are just being sent to Forspoken 360 and Babylon's Fall Battle Royale edition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FenyxRising View Post
    I like how everyone says "new content is not cheap" or "implementation is not hard".


    No it's not, the funds are just being sent to Forspoken 360 and Babylon's Fall Battle Royale edition.
    Have you ever been employed by corporations?

    FFXIV also drew funds from other Square Enix titles for its own inception.
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    Last edited by Aword3213; 09-07-2023 at 04:10 PM.

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