Get rid of all aetherytes and flying

[Jojoya]

You heard me, get rid of all aetherytes. Even the ones inside major city hubs. Best way for FFXIV to feel like a lived in world and an MMO is to force players to have to travel on foot and use their mounts as the only way to get to places faster. Also make overworld mobs be really aggressive and hard to intice players to be in parties for safety and if theyre not overleveled or are not skilled enough to evade multiple mobs.

Add in airships and boats to travel to most major hubs and have it be on a schedule and also a place where players hang around and interact on the ride and even fish or play some minigames to pass the time.

Kinda half kidding with this because obviously most people would just hate this but to be honest at this point I think FFXIV could use with some QoL prunning (not counting QoL UI ofcourse) if we want for the game to be fun and exciting to play. At least for me

Some QoL you can prune for yourself, such as teleporting. I have a friend who creates leveling challenges for himself on a regular basis. Can't teleport, can only slow walk, only equips quest rewards, etc.

Give it a try if you think doing those types of things will make the game more for fun for you. Let's not inflict on it everyone who likely feel differently. While there's a short period that traveling through a new area of the world does feel good that way, it doesn't last long. It especially doesn't last once you get into the repetitive end game.

[VelKallor]

I mean, one only needs to remember that despite having a better designed overworld for their game,

I think it would be nice to have a 10- or 30-minute boat ride the first time we go someplace, with teleportation available after that.

Thirty minutes.??

Hell to the NO. This is a game not me commuting to work.

[LilimoLimomo]

Thirty minutes.??

Hell to the NO. This is a game not me commuting to work.

Haha, that's a valid reaction. But I really loved traveling by boat to get somewhere the first time in FFXI; that 30-minute boat ride truly made the world feel big, and going to a new place by boat was exciting. Also probably worth saying, things happened on the boat, as it was a whole ship to explore with multiple levels. Folks would fish, sea creatures would cause trouble on deck, sometimes the boat would be attacked by ghost pirates and the weak players would have to hide below deck while the stronger players fought them off.

Not for everyone. I understand why it's gone. But forcing that to happen one time for a set number of locations might help the world feel big. That's something you lose when a ship ride halfway across the world takes the same amount of time as a teleport.

[RitsukoSonoda]

Haha, that's a valid reaction. But I really loved traveling by boat to get somewhere the first time in FFXI; that 30-minute boat ride truly made the world feel big, and going to a new place by boat was exciting. Also probably worth saying, things happened on the boat, as it was a whole ship to explore with multiple levels. Folks would fish, sea creatures would cause trouble on deck, sometimes the boat would be attacked by ghost pirates and the weak players would have to hide below deck while the stronger players fought them off.

Not for everyone. I understand why it's gone. But forcing that to happen one time for a set number of locations might help the world feel big. That's something you lose when a ship ride halfway across the world takes the same amount of time as a teleport.

Sea Horror spawns, everyone dies, people at destination port waiting for boat to arrive see a pile of bodies pour out of the boat... lol good times :3

[VelKallor]

that 30-minute boat ride truly made the world feel big,

No it felt tedious and a waste of my time. Thirty minutes when I could be doing other things. WOs flight paths are loop de loop de loop...the shortest distance between two point sis a straight line.

But forcing that to happen one time for a set number of locations might help the world feel big.

So now its more than one 30 minute waste of time? What do you suggest i do in that 30 minutes?

Hard pass.

[Boblawblah]

I would be more than thrilled to have a transportation system in-game that was somewhat real time. If you could go up on deck, look around, play a minigame (cards or something), buy food, just simple things while you're waiting, and most importantly, actually see the surrounding area while you were travelling. I don't just want a griffon type thing from WoW though, that's just a forced alt-tab moment. Optional is the key though. That said, for how much effort it would be, it wouldn't be worth it. It would simply be another thing people got angry about and say was wasted dev time.

[Iscah]

But forcing that to happen one time for a set number of locations might help the world feel big. That's something you lose when a ship ride halfway across the world takes the same amount of time as a teleport.

We have a world map to show us how far we're travelling.

And the only times we've actually taken ship rides around the world, it has been for plot reasons, and usually involves some amount of cutscenes along the way.

An enforced half-hour wait to continue the story would add nothing but frustration.

[VelKallor]

An enforced half-hour wait to continue the story would add nothing but frustration.

Iscah: agreed 100%

Travel is not gameplay. 30 minutes is a waste of time. I remember the WOW flightpaths, i went up the street one day and came back and I was STILL not there yet. So no, my time is valuable. WOW is 80% travel and 20% doing things, FF 14 is 10% travel and 90% doing things.

Plus the devs busted their rears getting us ARR flying, so taking that away is a hard NO.

[Iscah]

Travel is not gameplay. 30 minutes is a waste of time. I remember the WOW flightpaths, i went up the street one day and came back and I was STILL not there yet. So no, my time is valuable. WOW is 80% travel and 20% doing things, FF 14 is 10% travel and 90% doing things.

Plus the devs busted their rears getting us ARR flying, so taking that away is a hard NO.

I'm on your side. Why are you writing like you're arguing against it?

[VelKallor]

I'm on your side. Why are you writing like you're arguing against it?

I have three conversations going right now and I forgot a line at the start.

Iscah: agreed 100%

Please forgive me, I havent finished my first cup of coffee yet and was up late studying.