Thread: Bring back deleveling in 2.0

Originally Posted by GreyJorildyn

De-level was one of the worst ideas ever implemented in a MMORPG. Please leave it where it is and move forward.

The only reason I can think you or anyone would hate that is because you/they haven't played FFXI.

It was awesome. Not having it is moving backwards.

Originally Posted by Neomarl

The only reason I can think you or anyone would hate that is because you/they haven't played FFXI.

It was awesome. Not having it is moving backwards.

I played FFXI and I didn't think it was all that awesome. :\

Originally Posted by Neomarl

The only reason I can think you or anyone would hate that is because you/they haven't played FFXI.

It was awesome. Not having it is moving backwards.

Yes, because having bad features from a game 10 years old is a step forward.

Originally Posted by Neomarl

The only reason I can think you or anyone would hate that is because you/they haven't played FFXI.

It was awesome. Not having it is moving backwards.

It was NOT awesome...and I DID play FFXI. Needing a 25K+ exp buffer just to do certain content... some of which the strategy at the time was to sacrifice pull etc, no not cool. Once you hit level cap, you expect to not need to continue to level your 'capped' job for an eternity. I'd rather spend my time in game playing actual content, than having to slot 1-2 hours a week to earn back my 'buffer exp'.

If what you are really asking for is just a 'steeper' death penality...I could potentially get behind that but not until a couple things happen in game:
1. WHM learns Re-raise. It is SUPER UNFAIR in game atm that I can cast Raise on anyone and it is basically like they never died (gear isn't even damaged) but I have to return to a HP unless someone else in the party can raise me...in which case, it's usually 'weak' raise, and i get some gear damage.
2. We get re-raise items of some sort. Make them conditional, put them on long recast timers, I don't care, but we need them.
3. If none of these work, then create another class/job that also has some sort of 'Raise' ability. Again,even if on a crazy long timer.

Once at least 1 of these is in game, then we can talk about stronger death penalities. Such as more gear damage, stronger weakness (like maybe it doesn't wear until you re-visit your room,camp or use a special item), or longer weakness etc. But seriously, the game doesn't need exp loss.

Originally Posted by Neomarl

The only reason I can think you or anyone would hate that is because you/they haven't played FFXI.

It was awesome. Not having it is moving backwards.

I played FFXI for 9 years as well as other MMOs and I agree with Grey Jorildyn. Honestly, the xp loss wasn't as punishing as anyone here seems to think it was or remembers.

Saying not having it is moving backwards, please provide evidence of this? Tangible, empirical evidence as well. More than, "I felt that" or "Well from my experience". Making bold sweeping statements like "Not having it is moving backwards" w/o data to back it up is fairly hollow.

Originally Posted by Neomarl

The only reason I can think you or anyone would hate that is because you/they haven't played FFXI.

It was awesome. Not having it is moving backwards.

Your not serious? "I'm hardcore" how bout you keep track of your own exp and subtract 10,000 everytime you die and go spend 10 minutes getting it back. Death is already punished, if you think repairs aren't severe enough throw away 100k everytime you die, and YouTube yourself doing it or your total soft core casual. Played XI, hated it then, hate it now.

Dumbest. Thread. Ever.