Thread: Bring back deleveling in 2.0

Originally Posted by Jeronlmo

KoujiGeki, if only I had the time to quote the hundreds/thousands of post with casuals complaining about things they want instead of just going to WoW.

Originally Posted by SirOleas

Hardly, a bold assumption though.

It's not really a point of how quick one can recover their lost EXP, or even build a buffer for future losses based on strategic uses, it's about not wasting that time doing that.

I spent many years (Six for the curious) playing XI and PLD was my role 90% of the time. Even if the recovery of my EXP was speedy (and it usually was) it was still an annoying fact that I was losing EXP, not because I didn't think twice about my actions, but rather I was serving my duty to my LS in Dynamis etc.

There's nothing more lame than wasting time gaining back EXP you lost because you were helpful/useful. Not when you could be spending that time accumulating merit points based on your comment. Or doing other things like leveling other jobs etc.

I probably play XIV more than I should, but even I agree that exp loss is a waste of time, I'm too old for that crap.

xD

Sac pulls? D:

Originally Posted by Grimwald

Considering if you spent 30 minutes in a merit PT you'd have about a months worth of experience to burn through endgame wise.

Except, if you were in a typical HNMLS, your day was filled with events that could quite feasibly cause you to lose exp, and when you finally got the free time to join a merit pt, some HNM or other would pop, and you'd have to ditch your party. I'm sure it varied from LS to LS, but the one I was in could have events/HNMs spanning over the course of an entire day, leaving no room whatsoever to merit. Well, unless you chose to forgo sleep/going to work, anyway.

Nevermind if your main LS job was BLM. No merit pt for you in that case. Nope, carry your tail to puddings and hope the other endgame BLMs weren't doing the same thing you were.

Originally Posted by Neomarl

One of the best features of FFXI is not present right now in FFXIV.
Deleveling was a necessary element as the game doesn't punish you enough for dying in FFXIV.
Oh look, your gear condition has lowered by 10%! And you have to return to a home point. Is this supposed to be scary? NO.
I want to feel terrified of dying. I want to **** my pants every time I enter a dungeon or face a threatening enemy. This game NEEDS the element of constant fear.
Stop cattering to the casual market, and please try to bring back hardcore elements from the old FFXI days.


Please bring back deleveling for 2.0!!!

well unfortunately they want to cater to both casuals cause apparently us hardcore are a dying breed. so they can make as much money as possible. Theres no way for them to find an equal ground. The stuff they add for casuals, hardcores blow through it in no time and complain this stuff is to easy, and they add stuff like relic and casual complain that they cant get it.

But to death penalty, it does NOTHING, it doesnt add fear like you want , it an annoyance,yes. But all i think is oh great now i can wear that one piece of 50 gear if your wearing anything thats 50. The Brink of death status at your second death is penalty enough. Running back to your body, or Having to work of an xp debt, or deleveling was not a good system at all.

Do not want.

I think I'd rather see permanent decay on gear but they would need to review the current loot based PuP gear.

Originally Posted by Ksenia

I think I'd rather see permanent decay on gear but they would need to review the current loot based PuP gear.

Permanent gear damage sounds like a really bad idea. It would discourage players from wearing their gear, rather than encourage it.