Hamlet Seal Drop Rate

[Dawiichan]

My LS has gotten a total of 104 seals so far. Overall we've done around 200 runs (less if you don't count 60k- runs, since we've had a few hiccup runs and from before the 60k chest). Personally, the drop rate isn't that bad. I think after doing that many runs we've been able to calculate the amount of seals we expect per hamlet event. That and most people leave with something by the time we finish.

[HiirNoivl]

DeathTaru:

Dem's fightin' words. The interesting thing about gaming is that many players will rise to a higher standard of game play. This is my first FFMMO and my first MMORPG of this kind. If you had seen me say 6 months ago, you probably would have written me off too.

[DarthTaru]

DeathTaru:

Dem's fightin' words. The interesting thing about gaming is that many players will rise to a higher standard of game play. This is my first FFMMO and my first MMORPG of this kind. If you had seen me say 6 months ago, you probably would have written me off too.

Good attitude

[Lordofthedisc]

#1 provisioner DOES NOT GET YOU 100% seal drop.

Someone had to clarify...

[Shosasosa]

I'm not complaining, i made a shout group yesterday for 14 hours, (stopping to replace people when people left and making sure the new people knew how to do their jobs). got about 20 wins of at least 50k, mostly 60k, got 5 seals total in those 20 runs. none went to me. so after an entire day of making and keeping a party together i got nothing but anima. its fine i guess but kinda demoralizing.

[Req]

I'm not complaining, i made a shout group yesterday for 14 hours, (stopping to replace people when people left and making sure the new people knew how to do their jobs). got about 20 wins of at least 50k, mostly 60k, got 5 seals total in those 20 runs. none went to me. so after an entire day of making and keeping a party together i got nothing but anima. its fine i guess but kinda demoralizing.

The only reliable way you are going to get these things is if you go with a static or get really lucky. I would try to get your linkshell together to start a static, with pugs, no one is going to ever pass seals making a revolving door of someone who needs them.

We have been doing it on the weekends (One of each hamlet) for the past month for about 10-14 hours a day and we are finally starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel just trying to get like 14-15 people all their seals.

[DarthTaru]

I'm not complaining, i made a shout group yesterday for 14 hours, (stopping to replace people when people left and making sure the new people knew how to do their jobs). got about 20 wins of at least 50k, mostly 60k, got 5 seals total in those 20 runs. none went to me. so after an entire day of making and keeping a party together i got nothing but anima. its fine i guess but kinda demoralizing.

That sucks but this goes to the heart of the problem with the NA player base outside the top endgame linkshells.
This is not the way to proceed. All of that time, work and effort and you left it all to chance and got burned.
You need a linkshell, structure, organization, and a plan. We prioritized players within our linkshell based on various factors and passed all seals to them until they were complete. As a result we have one party of players now working on Ifrit for completed relics and another party of players working on their last 1~6 seals (this with losing many a seal to the occasional pick up player when we were short handed in the wee hours of the night).

FFXIV has moved into a new stage and it seems the NA player base is largely still stuck in a 2010 mindset where you could get away with being a loner or in a dead linkshell of 5 people. The game has changed but the NA players, in large part, aren't adapting like their JP counterparts.

You need to either join a permanent team or create one or you'll end up unsuccessful and jaded. 14 hours straight of Hamlet hell is quite the commitment and most linkshells would (if they operate efficiently and not like a band of pirates) reward that effort by feeding you your Hamlet seals.

I hate Hamlet. To pass the time during Hamlet we think of things in XI we would rather do than Hamlet (fully merit a job in a Dunes lvl sync party, Eco-Warrior, Jormy PUG until successful) so I sympathize with your night of demoralizing hell but the honest truth is....

You're doing it wrong.

[Req]

That sucks but this goes to the heart of the problem with the NA player base outside the top endgame linkshells.
This is not the way to proceed. All of that time, work and effort and you left it all to chance and got burned.
You need a linkshell, structure, organization, and a plan. We prioritized players within our linkshell based on various factors and passed all seals to them until they were complete. As a result we have one party of players now working on Ifrit for completed relics and another party of players working on their last 1~6 seals (this with losing many a seal to the occasional pick up player when we were short handed in the wee hours of the night).

FFXIV has moved into a new stage and it seems the NA player base is largely still stuck in a 2010 mindset where you could get away with being a loner or in a dead linkshell of 5 people. The game has changed but the NA players, in large part, aren't adapting like their JP counterparts.

You need to either join a permanent team or create one or you'll end up unsuccessful and jaded. 14 hours straight of Hamlet hell is quite the commitment and most linkshells would (if they operate efficiently and not like a band of pirates) reward that effort by feeding you your Hamlet seals.

I hate Hamlet. To pass the time during Hamlet we think of things in XI we would rather do than Hamlet (fully merit a job in a Dunes lvl sync party, Eco-Warrior, Jormy PUG until successful) so I sympathize with your night of demoralizing hell but the honest truth is....

You're doing it wrong.

Pretty much this, you are going to need a reliable group of people to get past not only this stage but the rest of the quest in general. If you can't get a static for this thing/ aren't in a linkshell there is really no hope of completing a relic, atleast not in the games current state. Maybe when they raise the level cap it will be puggable.

For whatever reason people still are under the impression they can do this because most people are still on the hamlet stage of the quest and unfortunately this just is not going to be the case. PUGs can pass off doing 5 chest speed runs but not ones in less than 17 minutes, and the fact that alot of pugs and even linkshells can't even beat garuda since the hotfix shows alot of people don't have a chance to beat ifrit, even once the strat comes out.

[TheVedis]

Pretty much this, you are going to need a reliable group of people to get past not only this stage but the rest of the quest in general. If you can't get a static for this thing/ aren't in a linkshell there is really no hope of completing a relic, atleast not in the games current state. Maybe when they raise the level cap it will be puggable.

For whatever reason people still are under the impression they can do this because most people are still on the hamlet stage of the quest and unfortunately this just is not going to be the case. PUGs can pass off doing 5 chest speed runs but not ones in less than 17 minutes, and the fact that alot of pugs and even linkshells can't even beat garuda since the hotfix shows alot of people don't have a chance to beat ifrit, even once the strat comes out.

no matter how much you tell this to people they wont believe it, they wont be having it

relics are obtainable to them, and they should be able to pug it

i know my group is a semi static, we are probly going to be REALLY slow at the AV/CC stage cuz we cant do 17 minutes, but we dont care about that, we arent in a rush.

And as far as hamlets go, i think we have gotten around 30 seals total from all 3 places(we do about 2 full day runs a week) in 3 weeks. and we have no issue at all with this drop rate, its been good to us so far with all the other stuff weve gotten cuz we are after more then the seals, which alot of people seem to think is the only thing that drops

[Asiaine]

FFXIV has moved into a new stage and it seems the NA player base is largely still stuck in a 2010 mindset where you could get away with being a loner or in a dead linkshell of 5 people. The game has changed but the NA players, in large part, aren't adapting like their JP counterparts.

You need to either join a permanent team or create one or you'll end up unsuccessful and jaded. 14 hours straight of Hamlet hell is quite the commitment and most linkshells would (if they operate efficiently and not like a band of pirates) reward that effort by feeding you your Hamlet seals.

I just wanted to emphasize that this is correct thinking, and falls very strongly in lines with the whole Final Fantasy theme. People comming together to work as a group to fight a great challenge. That is the underlying theme of every final fantasy, so why should XIV be different?

And if you stare at the mechanics enough you see most of it is incredibly annoying if you are on your own or disgorganized, but not nearly so bad if you are well organized in an good party.

The good news for NA people is that there are enough people from that part of the world playing so making a good LS is feasible. So go forth NAers!