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  1. #41
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    Lordofthedisc's Avatar
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    Maia Chase
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    #1 provisioner DOES NOT GET YOU 100% seal drop.

    Someone had to clarify...
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  2. #42
    Player Shosasosa's Avatar
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    Shosa Sosa
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    I'm not complaining, i made a shout group yesterday for 14 hours, (stopping to replace people when people left and making sure the new people knew how to do their jobs). got about 20 wins of at least 50k, mostly 60k, got 5 seals total in those 20 runs. none went to me. so after an entire day of making and keeping a party together i got nothing but anima. its fine i guess but kinda demoralizing.
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  3. #43
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    Rusalka Camenae
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    Gilgamesh
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    Carpenter Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Shosasosa View Post
    I'm not complaining, i made a shout group yesterday for 14 hours, (stopping to replace people when people left and making sure the new people knew how to do their jobs). got about 20 wins of at least 50k, mostly 60k, got 5 seals total in those 20 runs. none went to me. so after an entire day of making and keeping a party together i got nothing but anima. its fine i guess but kinda demoralizing.
    The only reliable way you are going to get these things is if you go with a static or get really lucky. I would try to get your linkshell together to start a static, with pugs, no one is going to ever pass seals making a revolving door of someone who needs them.

    We have been doing it on the weekends (One of each hamlet) for the past month for about 10-14 hours a day and we are finally starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel just trying to get like 14-15 people all their seals.
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  4. #44
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    If you are making a PUG, make a loot rules with wishlist system where people can choose to get seals or stuff like militias or gatherer hats, this will better off your chance at stuff.

    Player a/b/c/d wishlist seals
    Player e/f wishlist botany hat
    Player g/h wishlist militia robe

    Player e gets a seal, player a/b/c/d randoms for it.
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  5. #45
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    Leo Hart
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    Masamune
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Chardrizard View Post
    If you are making a PUG, make a loot rules with wishlist system where people can choose to get seals or stuff like militias or gatherer hats, this will better off your chance at stuff.

    Player a/b/c/d wishlist seals
    Player e/f wishlist botany hat
    Player g/h wishlist militia robe

    Player e gets a seal, player a/b/c/d randoms for it.
    JP PUG mostly doing this way, just split into Gear or Seal.
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  6. #46
    Player Shosasosa's Avatar
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    Shosa Sosa
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    every group i go with go with the "if it falls to you its yours unless u want to pass it" rule. and my linkshell kinda just fell apart so making PUGs is the only real thing i can do for now. you cant really setup a wishlist in a pug cuz people often dont stay for more than like 3-4 runs. my best hope at the moment is hoping that the seal falls to my list.

    Went last weekend and we got 5 seal drops in a row, 3 went to the same person 3 times in a row, so he finished Aleport in just under 2 hours.
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  7. #47
    Player HiirNoivl's Avatar
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    Hiir Noivl
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    Mateus
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Shosasosa View Post
    Went last weekend and we got 5 seal drops in a row, 3 went to the same person 3 times in a row, so he finished Aleport in just under 2 hours.
    Ooooo I'm so so Jealous!! ^o^

    Just stick it out. Few of us are that fortunate, but none of us has bad luck 100% of the time. You get there!
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  8. #48
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    DarthTaru's Avatar
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    Darth Taru
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Shosasosa View Post
    I'm not complaining, i made a shout group yesterday for 14 hours, (stopping to replace people when people left and making sure the new people knew how to do their jobs). got about 20 wins of at least 50k, mostly 60k, got 5 seals total in those 20 runs. none went to me. so after an entire day of making and keeping a party together i got nothing but anima. its fine i guess but kinda demoralizing.
    That sucks but this goes to the heart of the problem with the NA player base outside the top endgame linkshells.
    This is not the way to proceed. All of that time, work and effort and you left it all to chance and got burned.
    You need a linkshell, structure, organization, and a plan. We prioritized players within our linkshell based on various factors and passed all seals to them until they were complete. As a result we have one party of players now working on Ifrit for completed relics and another party of players working on their last 1~6 seals (this with losing many a seal to the occasional pick up player when we were short handed in the wee hours of the night).

    FFXIV has moved into a new stage and it seems the NA player base is largely still stuck in a 2010 mindset where you could get away with being a loner or in a dead linkshell of 5 people. The game has changed but the NA players, in large part, aren't adapting like their JP counterparts.

    You need to either join a permanent team or create one or you'll end up unsuccessful and jaded. 14 hours straight of Hamlet hell is quite the commitment and most linkshells would (if they operate efficiently and not like a band of pirates) reward that effort by feeding you your Hamlet seals.

    I hate Hamlet. To pass the time during Hamlet we think of things in XI we would rather do than Hamlet (fully merit a job in a Dunes lvl sync party, Eco-Warrior, Jormy PUG until successful) so I sympathize with your night of demoralizing hell but the honest truth is....

    You're doing it wrong.
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  9. #49
    Player HiirNoivl's Avatar
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    Hiir Noivl
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    Having a team would be nice. But I ended up getting burned on Hamlet WITHIN a endgame linkshell and left it.

    So be careful who you pick.
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  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shosasosa View Post
    every group i go with go with the "if it falls to you its yours unless u want to pass it" rule. and my linkshell kinda just fell apart so making PUGs is the only real thing i can do for now. you cant really setup a wishlist in a pug cuz people often dont stay for more than like 3-4 runs. my best hope at the moment is hoping that the seal falls to my list.

    Went last weekend and we got 5 seal drops in a row, 3 went to the same person 3 times in a row, so he finished Aleport in just under 2 hours.
    Most JP PUG only last 3 runs, they clearly stated it in their shout, then they will disband and remake new one if they wants to keep going. So, yes you are doing it wrong, play smart
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