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    I don't care about what Zepla thinks and the only reason she is back to covering FFXIV is because her channel and brand is failing and in a desperate attempt to stem the bleeding and stay relevant she is outrage farming the state of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonemoose View Post
    I don't care about what Zepla thinks and the only reason she is back to covering FFXIV is because her channel and brand is failing and in a desperate attempt to stem the bleeding and stay relevant she is outrage farming the state of the game.
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    The problem with the post is nothing was shared, no discussion was had, nothing at all was added to the conversation
    The same can be said for OP's posting history. Or others who contribute even less. Whats your point.

    heir post was I don't care what a streamer thinks and I have opinions that I am gonna keep to myself.
    Yep. Im the same,. Streamers make sense but their error rate is high.

    You are drawing conclusions from a pretty ambiguous post where you can also come to the conclusion they are saying they don't need anyone else to tell them they don't like where the game is going.
    Thats pretty much accurate. I dont set much stock in streamers either, they usually have their own agenda, MANY of them use the game as a means to an end, i.e money so you have to take that very much into account. I have a huge soft spot for Zepla, she has had some rotten events happen in her life, but that doesnt mean i dont take her stream comments with a pinch of salt.
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  4. #164
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    The same can be said for OP's posting history. Or others who contribute even less. Whats your point.
    I'd agree to disagree on that front. This very thread managed to spawn - as of the time of this post - seventeen pages of discussion and I'd say there's at least some civil and intriguing takes to be found.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    The same can be said for OP's posting history. Or others who contribute even less. Whats your point.
    I don't disagree that the OPs post was nothing more than watch this video, however the video has a lot of good discussion points with potential issues with the game. I think the point is that there are some valid points Zepla brings up and are worth the discussion, especially since FFXIV streamers are generally pretty positive in their discussion of the game and having one come out with a video of the perceived problems is interesting to talk about. I get that a lot of people don't watch/like streamers at all, but it has been brought up multiple times that they are essentially our only way of directly discussing issues with the people in charge of the game's direction and their opinion has weight if for no other reason than that. Whether you agree with the opinion or not is another reason the discussion is important as it is potentially our way to convey either you agree or disagree and why and have the ability to perhaps refine the streamers opinions before they take them to the devs in the media tour.

    Yep. Im the same,. Streamers make sense but their error rate is high.
    That is why the discussion is important. Streamers do read the forums from time to time as seen by them farming content from it and besides commenting on the video on youtube it's about the best way we have to convey that message.

    Thats pretty much accurate, accurately, I dont set much stock in streamers either, they usually have their own agenda, MANY of them use the game as a means to an end, i.e money so you have to take that very much into account. I have a huge soft spot for Zepla, she had had some rotten events happen in her life, but that doesnt mean i dont take her stream comments with a pinch of salt.
    And it's fine to disagree with her opinions, but at the same time say why, say what your opinions are, post something more than "I don't need others to tell me my opinion" and nothing else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonemoose View Post
    I don't care about what Zepla thinks and the only reason she is back to covering FFXIV is because her channel and brand is failing and in a desperate attempt to stem the bleeding and stay relevant she is outrage farming the state of the game.
    Translation I don’t like mean streamer saying my game isn’t perfect so she must be wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amenara View Post
    I don't disagree that the OPs post was nothing more than watch this video, however the video has a lot of good discussion points with potential issues with the game.
    Thank you, my post is just to share a thoughtful video, the video says it better than I can, so I didn't add anything it's really that simple. But some people in this thread are crying that I didn't add to the discussion ? No thanks I have nothing to add, Zepla's video summarized everything perfectly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I disagree. This very thread managed to spawn - as of the time of this post - seventeen pages of discussion and I'd say there's at least some civil and intriguing takes to be found.
    You missed my point but never mind.

    I had to literally hold my sides in to see Hazzikostas REWRITE HISTORY.

    WE WARNED him and all the devs about what Garrisons were going to be, we told him, again and again what was going to happen, as usual all the beta advice was tossed out and ignored. He was told that if he ignored the players feedback and went ahead with what was described as "this is the expac all the devs wanted to play"...Karabor, Bladespire, all the cut content, Fort Copypasta and Camp Zug Zug, all the mistakes of WOD were foreseen and ignored.

    WE BEGGED THEM not to cut flying, we posted reams of feedback on why we wanted Karabor and Bladespire, we were told we could spend time in the new Shattrath and it was gutted instead.

    WOD was get to max level then raid or die. We told them this was a bad idea. They didnt listen.

    None of these locations made it to Warlords of Draenor. The islands, including Farahlon, were removed from the in-game world map by launch, though they still appear on in-universe maps. While the Ogre Continent is still present on the World of Warcraft world map, it is rarely mentioned outside a few lines of dialogue.
    Plenty of features were changed during Warlords of Draenor, but none were so egregious as Garrisons. Garrisons were imagined to be World of Warcraft’s player housing. Players could put their Garrison in any zone, and could freely move it later. Followers would be fully customizable, and could complete quests, dungeons, and even raids on behalf of the players. Buildings would be highly-modular, with versatile placement, decorations, and multiple powers to choose from.

    Almost none of these features made it to Warlords of Draenor. Garrisons were stuck in the Frostfire Ridge for Horde players and Shadowmoon Valley for the Alliance. Buildings could not be customized, could be placed in only a couple spots in the Garrison, and had specific powers. Followers were not customizable, and the rock-paper-scissors-like Mission Table replaced their dispatch. Other early ideas, like battle pet breeding, never made it past the concept stage.
    Id link it all and show you...if it hadnt been sent down the memory hole.
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  9. #169
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    Oh yes

    Equating WOD with Endwalker is the most hilarous take there can ever be. The two are nothing alike in any sense. Saying that its fine to take breaks in WOW when the game is an endless series of chores like Torghast to stay ahead of the player power curve, and has been so for YEARS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Oh yes

    Equating WOD with Endwalker is the most hilarous take there can ever be. The two are nothing alike in any sense. Saying that its fine to take breaks in WOW when the game is an endless series of chores like Torghast to stay ahead of the player power curve, and has been so for YEARS?

    In WoD...unless you raided, there was basically nothing for you to do. In EW, we have things to do, but they didn't really bother to make most of it fun, engaging or even worthwhile. So yeah, I guess the similarity would be that neither of them are particularly fun? Beyond that...I'd take EW despite it flaws over WoD any day of the week. WoD was bad. No one can really understand just how bad unless they were there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
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