Zepla: Endwalker is the Worst FFXIV Expansion I have played

[Supersnow845]

I'm not sure how you keep it up. You're probably one of two - three posters that actually tries to have some solutions to issues taking all sides into consideration and all you're met with is snarky responses.

Pointing out things we discussed 80 pages ago in the most reductive and disingenuous way possible is not “taking into consideration all sides”,

The content is not repetitive and has no reward structure, how many times do we have to say that; doing a variant more than 12 times for funsies is not more content it’s a waste of time, I don’t know how many more times we can say that

[Jeeqbit]

The point being made is really that SE does make a lot of content, it is just designed in a way that you are done with it a lot quicker than many players would like.

They make all these dungeons, FATEs, deep dungeons, variant dungeons, Island Sanctuary and it is content but that doesn't mean it is engaging content to many players and so they could get these bosses, all these mechanics and all these environments they worked so hard on for months and do something with it that makes it more challenging or more engaging over a longer period of time, which is where the arguments for things like Eureka, Bozja, relic grinds, or copying GW open world come in.

[NekoMataMata]

Thread needs to be closed. I see certain people pointing out how there's no discussion or that not all sides are being heard, but at this point you've all said your piece. It's like a broken record watching you all accuse each other of random faults that have been addressed multiple times before already.

[AlexiaD]

Thread needs to be closed. I see certain people pointing out how there's no discussion or that not all sides are being heard, but at this point you've all said your piece. It's like a broken record watching you all accuse each other of random faults that have been addressed multiple times before already.

"Let's silence people so they make a new thread to discuss the same thing again"

it's literally the point of a forum dude.

[NekoMataMata]

"Let's silence people so they make a new thread to discuss the same thing again"

it's literally the point of a forum dude.

I'm not suggesting silencing anyone. Just pointing out that this entire thread is moving no where. You're all just running in circles. Most of you don't want discussion. You want a hivemind or an echo chamber. At that point you've really just got to call it quits.

None of you have made any progress towards even so much as acknowledging your opposing sides. It's bad faith arguments going all around.

[AlexiaD]

I'm not suggesting silencing anyone. Just pointing out that this entire thread is moving no where. You're all just running in circles. Most of you don't want discussion. You want a hivemind or an echo chamber. At that point you've really just got to call it quits.

None of you have made any progress towards even so much as acknowledging your opposing sides. It's bad faith arguments going all around.

I understand very well, I do, but if you close this thread another will take it's place.

[NekoMataMata]

I understand very well, I do, but if you close this thread another will take it's place.

And you can start over in that new thread. A fresh start where you can try to do better. If you can't do better then you close that thread too. You keep trying until people start to converse like the grown adults that we all know are behind those screens.

Besides, once again I want to point out that it's not silencing. Silencing would be wiping your posts out, banning users, and otherwise preventing discussion completely.

[LittleImp]

See above: That seems to be the objective. Silence positivity or even neutral non-negativity.

The irony is palpable.

How the turns have tabled..

[Swordsman]

if you close this thread another will take it's place.

[ASkellington]

I'm not suggesting silencing anyone. Just pointing out that this entire thread is moving no where. You're all just running in circles. Most of you don't want discussion. You want a hivemind or an echo chamber. At that point you've really just got to call it quits.

None of you have made any progress towards even so much as acknowledging your opposing sides. It's bad faith arguments going all around.

Any and all discussion happened a long time ago. And even then I think Zepla missed the mark for some people.

Endwalker from the start hasn't been a good expac imo. Numbers can say all they want but,

You have people questioning the rushed nature of the MSQ giving parts of it poor quality
2-min meta for battle content
Continued issues with job/classes not being addressed and in some cases even being acknowledged
Variant/Criterion implementation being lack luster (idea is fine if not really what some people are looking for), having no rewards or relic attached to it
Current relic being poorly received
Deep Dungeon being lackluster
Island Sanctuary being a mixed reception as well

Its kind of a mess. How much of this is due to Covid or other issues is hard to say. Its clear there's a LOT of dissatisfaction with many areas of the game though.