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  1. #101
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    Nebelheim's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    That specific tone and facial expressions - go watch the segment just before 30 mins; that's an angry face, not the face of someone being theatrical for the sake of it - make me think there's deep seated, and misguided, anger there. As people here note all the time when the negative nancies insist everyone who still likes the game is a shill worshiping Yoshi P: People liking the game aren't shills, nor are they saying no criticism at all is allowed or the like. They point out, as I often do, that insults aren't criticism, and insulting the devs and especially other players isn't critique under any definition.



    I do agree she comes across as frustrated, but that tone and attitude is wrong, no matter who does it. Better to explain what you dislike and make a plea to change, and acknowledge those that don't agree with you as having valid points of view as well while suggesting compromises. Attacking them with that level of venom ain't it.
    In what way did zepla attack people though. she mentioned that you can't say any criticism without someone defending the game and taking it as a personal attack which is true. You can provide constructive criticism as nicely as possible and get hit with "just quit" or "unsub from the game if you don't like certain things". I don't know why anyone feels personally attacked by her video or that she is calling people out who enjoy the game.
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  2. #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    That specific tone and facial expressions - go watch the segment just before 30 mins; that's an angry face, not the face of someone being theatrical for the sake of it - make me think there's deep seated, and misguided, anger there. As people here note all the time when the negative nancies insist everyone who still likes the game is a shill worshiping Yoshi P: People liking the game aren't shills, nor are they saying no criticism at all is allowed or the like. They point out, as I often do, that insults aren't criticism, and insulting the devs and especially other players isn't critique under any definition.
    Each to their own, though I don't believe it's that deep. Though I believe another poster recently commented on the habit of certain posters attempting to offer a psychoanalysis in order to deflect away from any points raised by anyone even remotely critical of the game as a method of not so subtly implying that they're unhinged, hysterical and/or in need of intervention.

    I don't think there's much point in analysing the tone and, uh, facial expressions of the likes of Zepla. For starters, this is a game with players from many different backgrounds, cultures, personality types and belief systems. Not everyone is going to be everybody's particular cup of tea - and that's absolutely fine.

    There's individuals on this forum who have admitted to loathing my posts because I'm European and fairly to the point. I'm certainly not going to change how I type or express myself to please their ilk, though. I won't claim to speak for Zepla, though I wouldn't be surprised if she took a similar stance and found herself in a position where she isn't overly concerned about meeting the ever shifting standards of certain posters on the game's official forum.
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  3. #103
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    I want to know why I should care about Zepla’s opinion? Never heard of them or their videos.
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  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebelheim View Post
    In what way did zepla attack people though. she mentioned that you can't say any criticism without someone defending the game and taking it as a personal attack which is true. You can provide constructive criticism as nicely as possible and get hit with "just quit" or "unsub from the game if you don't like certain things". I don't know why anyone feels personally attacked by her video or that she is calling people out who enjoy the game.
    If anything, people are proving her point about the community and criticism in real time.
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  5. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    I took a break for a few months myself, losing my house (willingly) in the process. That is my average break from a game though, but up until now I've made sure to log in at least once a month to keep my house. It all depends on the state of things. Sometimes I'm away from a game for almost half a year if things are especially bad. Usually nothing I need to worry about with this one though.
    Ouch sorry to hear, on the house thing. Hopefully content will come out soon so we can have something to do XD
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  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katish View Post
    Ouch sorry to hear, on the house thing. Hopefully content will come out soon so we can have something to do XD
    No regrets. It's great being unshackled from my housing bonds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    If anything, people are proving her point about the community and criticism in real time.
    I agree i just find it weird people also feel personally attacked from her tone and hand movements because she isn't being her usual overly happy self.
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  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    If anything, people are proving her point about the community and criticism in real time.
    Is it any wonder streamers tend to be hesitant to criticise the game?
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    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


  9. #109
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelCheese77 View Post
    I want to know why I should care about Zepla’s opinion? Never heard of them or their videos.
    It's sensible to care about this video in a more abstract sense, even if you don't care for or about her message. Think of Zepla like a politician; While you may not agree with or care for her message, the simple fact that other people do can have an impact on your experience.
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  10. #110
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    Think of Zepla like a politician;
    so she is evil and out to make things worse for everyone but themselves?
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