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    Player FenyxRising's Avatar
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    Fenyx Rising
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 90

    Duty Support has now killed every required ARR to SB dungeon

    Keeper of the Lake's last boss went from a crazy AoE dodgefest to a snoozefest
    Castrum Abania's second boss went from the cool elemental mechanic to generic AoE attacks
    The Aery's last boss no longer has Estinien's RP
    Practically every boss now just jumps back to the center by itself invalidating the tank's role completely

    Duty Support has now made every required ARR to SB dungeon a McDonald's hamburger, mass-produced, streamlined, and they all taste the same.
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    That dumbing down is deliberate in itself. None of these mechanics were complicated. They could have made trusts be able to do them no problem. They chose not to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Boblawblah's Avatar
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    Shara Dei-ji
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Different face, but the same ranting about things that they don't really care about vibe...Gaius?
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    Tatanpa Nononpa
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    That dumbing down is deliberate in itself. None of these mechanics were complicated. They could have made trusts be able to do them no problem. They chose not to.
    Alternatively, SE could have chosen to make encounters play out differently with players vs. trusts. There's already a precedent for this [minor EW spoiler]:

    The Lv.89 Trial starts you out with two stacks of "Willful" if you do it with a trust. You start with none if you do it with other players.
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    Thea Sitori
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 72
    Yep, aside from much needed aesthetic upgrades, at the same time they smashed the hammer on anything that would make the duty support squirm. There was probably a development time and cost to this factor. Do we enhance the trusts to handle this and that, or just get on to the next 4 dungeons kind of planning.
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    Knives Jonquil
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    Excalibur
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    Rogue Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FenyxRising View Post
    Duty Support has now made every required ARR to SB dungeon a McDonald's hamburger, mass-produced, streamlined, and they all taste the same.
    McDonald's is good, actually. You should try their milkshakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGrimace View Post
    McDonald's is good, actually. You should try their milkshakes.

    I couldn't celebrate Grimace's birthday as McDonalds has a shoddy ice cream machine vendor. It's so good, that iFixit bought their own machine to see why it's always "down".
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    Player NekoMataMata's Avatar
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    Feline Good
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    Halicarnassus
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    Paladin Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    That dumbing down is deliberate in itself. None of these mechanics were complicated. They could have made trusts be able to do them no problem. They chose not to.
    Don't know why people call it dumbing down. Castrum Abania's second boss has more mechanics now I'm pretty sure. I do miss the elemental mechanic, but the changes as a whole on it are a weird outlier compared to the other two.
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    Alex Carver
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    I'm curious, why do you 'need' difficulty before reaching cap? The dungeon 'restructure' honestly introduces people to the basics of what they will encounter at endgame better than the old dungeon format did. Not like dungeons were ever difficult to begin with, so making them more 'linear'/easier/whatever you want to call it honestly doesn't matter.
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    Don't know why people call it dumbing down. Castrum Abania's second boss has more mechanics now I'm pretty sure. I do miss the elemental mechanic, but the changes as a whole on it are a weird outlier compared to the other two.
    Whatever you want to call it, there is no way it was necessary to remove the elemental tower mechanic to accomodate trusts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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