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  1. #41
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    Anonemoose's Avatar
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    Eveanna Manolin
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    Leviathan
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FenyxRising View Post
    Introduce a variant of a Savage mount that everyone gets if you cleared the last floor in a Savage tier in week 1, make it the same model, like megaloambystoma, but with some minor particle effects (not too much). I think this is a good way to add some prestigious mounts.

    I can already hear the complaints "noooo this is elitist" actually that is the point, thank you for agreeing, it is for the elite, it's an elite mount. If I see a shiny megaloambystoma, I will know that person cleared Savage week 1.
    No, you can't have items that are exclusive only to players at a particular point in time or to a small number of players through execution of extraordinary skill in recognition for their efforts. That's simply not "fair". You seem to have this idea in your head that sometimes people have things and other people don't and that's normal and acceptable and okay. All things must be achievable and obtainable by everybody at all times (even if they have no intention to achieve or obtain them). What if, using your scenario, they cleared on day 1 of week 2? We can't allow anybodies feelings to get hurt. It's 2023, Chud.
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  2. #42
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    technole's Avatar
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    Thea Sitori
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 72
    Considering YoshiP had shown his public dismay in the two world first ultimate clears this expansion because of add-ons, I wouldn't count on anything special for the foreseeable future. The amount of red ink they had to highlight in that post was telling on how tired they are of the 3rd-party subject, and you know at-least one of out the hundreds of raid teams who clear high-end content week one will post a video with add-ons and the disappointment cycle starts again. From 'celebration' to bans left and right.

    It's a shame people don't care about upsetting the producer himself with such accomplishments.
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  3. #43
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    Tiramu's Avatar
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    Tira Mu
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    Raiden
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    White Mage Lv 90
    If we can sell it on the market board, I'd consider trying to be an elite raider.
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    WHM / BLM / SMN / NIN/ DNC / Omnicrafter and Gatherer

  4. #44
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    Tanis_Ebonhart's Avatar
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    Klee Zunners
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    Midgardsormr
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    Monk Lv 88
    No.

    We don't need FOMO to that degree. I don't even think WoW does that and they're the King of FOMO.
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  5. #45
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    Irvy Ryath
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    Ragnarok
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    Lancer Lv 85
    Quote Originally Posted by FenyxRising View Post
    Introduce a variant of a Savage mount that everyone gets if you cleared the last floor in a Savage tier in week 1, make it the same model, like megaloambystoma, but with some minor particle effects (not too much). I think this is a good way to add some prestigious mounts.

    I can already hear the complaints "noooo this is elitist" actually that is the point, thank you for agreeing, it is for the elite, it's an elite mount. If I see a shiny megaloambystoma, I will know that person cleared Savage week 1.
    "Lets clear the content as fast as possible so we have nothing to do for the next 6 months"
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  6. #46
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    Ivtrix Impreria
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    Goblin
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...96P4s/htmlview

    BCOB (T5) took 65 days and was primarily gated as long as it was by Twister being broken/badly tuned. Complaints almost invariably centred around this problem.

    SCOB (T9) took 19 days and was mildly gear gated (It was just a huge difficulty step up over anything else at the time). I honestly don't remember seeing any complaints over T9 tbh.

    FCOB (T13) took 5 days and wasn't at all gear gated. The only complaints here were that it was disappointingly easy for what was meant to be a grand finale.

    Gordias (A4S) took 34 days, it wasn't gear gated, but was rather jank/strat/latency gated as was later confirmed when a Chinese team killed it 4 days after release in ilvl 190 (aka normal mode) gear but with the luxury of fleshed out strats and regional servers. Gordias complaints will go down in history but this was rooted in terrible development, tuning and testing decisions rather than raw gear gating.

    Midas (A8S) took 17 days and was similar to T9 in that it was mildly gear gated but was also yet another major step up in complexity. The main complaints that I can remember were primarily down to how PF unfriendly A6S was. I don't remember A8S getting much if any flak at all tbh. My only nit pick was that it was a bit long but outside of that, it was an instant classic.

    Creator (A12S) took 2 days and wasn't at all gear gated. Complaints were that if anything, it was quite significantly undertuned and disappointingly easy, even more so than T13.

    The community didn't seem to have a problem with it back then. I do actually agree with you though, in the sense that I suspect people wouldn't be happy with new raid tiers taking more than a day to be back on farm status. But that's primarily because the raids aren't really fun anymore, at least not like they used to be.
    The players also improved and got a lot better at the game over time. I think your argument is a little rose tinted because in other MMOs the same exact things happen. KT wasn’t killed for what 6 months? The black temple had been released at a time when no one in the game had access to it. You’ll probably never see that in a game ever again. Look at both games, the raids nowadays are significantly more complex than they were in the past yet they are cleared exponentially quickly now.

    Look at how fast all the vaunted bosses died when classic wow released. Player knowledge simply continues to improve. You can’t take it away. You’d have to fundamentally redesign combat and encounters from the ground up which is a huge risk I don’t see CBU3 taking.
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  7. #47
    Player Ivtrix's Avatar
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    Ivtrix Impreria
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    Goblin
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Stanelis View Post
    "Lets clear the content as fast as possible so we have nothing to do for the next 6 months"
    The majority of people who actually clear week 1 happily do other content internally or externally of the game and don’t go whining on the forums there’s nothing to do.
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  8. #48
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    Kismet Altius
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    Louisoix
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Would rather it be minimum ilvl full party.
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  9. #49
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Cactuar
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    No u how is boudoir with yoshi p a bad incentive please I’m waiting
    He's mad because he couldn't make Yoshi put down his Switch.
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  10. #50
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    Percibel Theren
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    Zodiark
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Another issue I have with this idea is that it only rewards skill to a certain point. Mostly, it would just reward people for having TIME. I'm sure a lot more people (not me, mind you) would clear week one if they could afford to invest 8 hours every day into progging. Alas, many players have jobs and families and simply can't find the time to clear week 1.
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