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    Player FenyxRising's Avatar
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    I know y'all don't wanna hear this

    But W2W pulls and healer DPS in dungeons are very very basic. They are minimum requirements really, any less and it's unacceptable not to mention you're also making 3 other people's dungeon run far longer. If you can't do it then may I suggest using Duty Support. It's really that simple, Capisce ?
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    I agree they could use Duty Support if they want that, but Duty Support isn't available for optional dungeons currently.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

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    Player FenyxRising's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    I agree they could use Duty Support if they want that, but Duty Support isn't available for optional dungeons currently.
    Then they can practice healer DPS and wall to wall pulls in MSQ dungeons in Duty Support and then do optional dungeons for real, it really is very simple, there is no pressure needed.
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    OP you forgot the 3 dots at the end of the title, how can I take this post seriously without "..." everywhere?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Auriana Redsteele
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    Quote Originally Posted by FenyxRising View Post
    But W2W pulls and healer DPS in dungeons are very very basic. They are minimum requirements really, any less and it's unacceptable not to mention you're also making 3 other people's dungeon run far longer. If you can't do it then may I suggest using Duty Support. It's really that simple, Capisce ?
    I know you don't wanna hear this, but you are wrong. It is really that simple.
    Wall-to-wall pulls are tactically stupid, does not shave more than a few seconds off a run, and really serves little practical purpose other than giving wannabe-elitists something to complain about when other people don't do w2w pulls.
    It is especially silly in low-level leveling dungeons when many classes don't even have AoE attacks yet.
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    So... you posted this using the same title just so you can feel special...?

    Catgirls...
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    Zephyr Menodora
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    Someone really desperate for attention. Needing their own special snowflake thread when this topic was already started by someone else and is still on page 1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    I know you don't wanna hear this, but you are wrong. It is really that simple.
    Wall-to-wall pulls are tactically stupid, does not shave more than a few seconds off a run, and really serves little practical purpose other than giving wannabe-elitists something to complain about when other people don't do w2w pulls.
    It is especially silly in low-level leveling dungeons when many classes don't even have AoE attacks yet.
    If wall-to-wall pulls only shave off a few seconds, then DPS must be extraordinarily low. Before I did w2w pulls (back in ARR), I remember ARR leveling dungeons taking on average 30-40 minutes (maybe more). Now it's typically 16 minutes or less for all dungeons. For low level dungeons, yes, mostly just tanks have AoE but it's still AoE.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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    Sirk Raven
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    If wall-to-wall pulls only shave off a few seconds, then DPS must be extraordinarily low. Before I did w2w pulls (back in ARR), I remember ARR leveling dungeons taking on average 30-40 minutes (maybe more). Now it's typically 16 minutes or less for all dungeons. For low level dungeons, yes, mostly just tanks have AoE but it's still AoE.
    well ARR doesn't have a block every 2-3 packs like most post ARR dungeons, Think this is a reference to majority post ARR dungeons in which W2W is doable its pulling 2 packs so the time saved really is minimal.
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    Ivtrix Impreria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcg55ss View Post
    well ARR doesn't have a block every 2-3 packs like most post ARR dungeons, Think this is a reference to majority post ARR dungeons in which W2W is doable its pulling 2 packs so the time saved really is minimal.
    It really isn’t when dps use cds when both trash packs are stacked. It’s a pretty big timesaver the post above is bending over backwards to downplay.
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