I know y'all don't wanna hear this...

[Mimilu]

Yep, nothing says fun like pressuring people to rush while doing something that it's supposed to be done for leisure, like, you know, what a videogame is.

The problem with dungeons are that they're designed to be done repeatedly to grind for tomes and/or exp. After the first few runs, they become chores and I don't know about you but doing the same chore over and over again at a snail's pace doesn't sound fun either. (*≧▽≦)ﾉｼ))

[Mcg55ss]

Yes and no. You want to make sure you keep aggro on both, but it normally isn't optimal to keep spamming AoEs when there are only two mobs. Sometimes you want to make use of your single target tools instead. Some abilities will give you less DPS against two mobs than its single target equivalent would against a single mob.

At the end of the day, your job as a tank is fourfold;
1.) obtain and maintain aggro on all mobs
2.) position them optimally
3.) generate as much DPS as your job is capable of producing
4.) stay alive

You beat me to it I can't type as fast on my phone lol

[Mcg55ss]

Fine, between 3 mobs and 200 mobs then. You are nitpicking but you are technically correct so you get a pass on this.

One of the few things I enjoy doing that I am giving up. I'm trying to teach my girlfriend to do it because she's struggling with DPS rotations, uptimes planning ahead with upcoming mechanics cuz she's brand new to gaming she only playing like a year and a half and only 8 months is MMO so I figured teaching her warrior might be easier role.....might we will have to see

[Mcg55ss]

trusts are available if you dont like the pace other players perform at

Sounds like you don't like the pace the tank is playing at you can go play in the trust then or just tank yourself

[Ivtrix]

Sounds like you don't like the pace the tank is playing at you can go play in the trust then or just tank yourself

its exactly what i do in most dungeons, your point?

[Mcg55ss]

its exactly what i do in most dungeons, your point?

So you can't complain about how others play the game or what they do.

[Payadopa]

The tanks job is to hold emnity. Refusing to do so is a reportable offense. If a player wants to take their time and go slow, the trust system is there for players to use.

It's beyond sad if people actually act like that. How petty can you be? Finish the duty and do something else. What a Karen attitude. Do people want to talk to the dungeon manager afterwards, too? Give me a break.

[Ivtrix]

It's beyond sad if people actually act like that. How petty can you be? Finish the duty and do something else. What a Karen attitude. Do people want to talk to the dungeon manager afterwards, too? Give me a break.

NGL its sad that you think asking people to perform the bare minimum of your role responsibilities is a Karen attitude.

[ZephyrMenodora]

NGL its sad that you think asking people to perform the bare minimum of your role responsibilities is a Karen attitude.

I agree. We already distinguished between new players, first timers, and undergeared players and having patience for this. I have a ton of patience for new or less skilled players.

But if your idea of fun is just moseying around and purposely never learning how to pull...wanting to take in the sights and sounds, well...really please go with friends who are into this pace or use the trusts. I'd suggest that a great majority of players enjoy more efficient runs and the outliers would be such people who refuse to learn how to pull a dungeon.

[Ivtrix]

I agree. We already distinguished between new players, first timers, and undergeared players and having patience for this. I have a ton of patience for new or less skilled players.

But if your idea of fun is just moseying around and purposely never learning how to pull...wanting to take in the sights and sounds, well...really please go with friends who are into this pace or use the trusts. I'd suggest that a great majority of players enjoy more efficient runs and the outliers would be such people who refuse to learn how to pull a dungeon.

I have infinitely more patience the moment "one or more members has yet to complete the duty" pops up on the screen. I sandbagged hard in the endwalker final trial to allow a first timer to actually see the important bits the other day. But by the time you finish the MSQ you should have at minimum the fundamentals of the job you completed it on. If you enter a dungeon and dont speak up that you are new to the role then I am going to assume you have an idea of what you are doing. I am not going to sit here and background check everyone I play with. That would be Karen behavior.

Most of my ire is directed at people who are far enough into the game and should know better by now.