Character Growth: Leveling is part of RPGs

[Pnight]

lol

The only reason you could ever say XI's pace was perfect because you always had something to do was because it: 1) required specific party combinations 2) was ridiculously slow because of pDIF, level correction and lack of any decent gear

Spending all your time LFG and soloing quests =/= good game design, perfect pace
Spending your time shouting or needing to do missions no one wants to help on/has already passed =/= good game design, perfect pace
Weeks on end not accomplishing anything, standing in Jeuno, staring at a moogle =/= good game design, perfect pace

Any comparisons to XI being good had better be limited to story, scenery, or nostalgia because the bulk of what that game brought to the table was terribly incorporated. The only reason I started playing again after the WoTG fiasco was Abyssea, the one good thing XI did (outside of story, scenery, or nostalgia)

The enmity system, combat system, changing gear (leading to sidegrade gear updates (lazy development), massive inventory issues, macro pieces for one ability), damage formulas, back and forth nerf/buff/nerf balancing -> most jobs become useless for majority of events (eg, too many jobs), RNG drop rate system, open world HNM's on 24-72h respawns, the teleporter to Kirin, etc. I, you, anyone could go on with all of the terrible things about that game. Some people kept on despite it, some people didn't, it was terrible regardless.

Oh, and the fact that we have to waste our own time figuring out formulas for everything or what Treasure Hunter actually does is pretty lame as well. Most developers understand that people are playing a game, and want to know how x/y/z effects their character. FFXI? Working as intended.

= Loves Instant Gratification

Exclude waiting time and ffxi had perfect leveling speed xp/hr. I'm not so opposed to the leveling speed in ffxiv. Perfect leveling speed for me would be around 4-6 weeks consistent play 3-4 hrs per day. My biggest problem with ffxiv leveling is the style, it's ugly, sloppy, lazy and boring. I much prefer 1 mob which needs attention and skill to kill (if that means more xp/mob fine), not attack 15 mobs half asleep... swing once.. blm nuke.. grab 15 more mob style.

[Churchill]

= Loves Instant Gratification

Exclude waiting time and ffxi had perfect leveling speed xp/hr. I'm not so opposed to the leveling speed in ffxiv. Perfect leveling speed for me would be around 4-6 weeks consistent play 3-4 hrs per day. My biggest problem with ffxiv leveling is the style, it's ugly, sloppy, lazy and boring. I much prefer 1 mob which needs attention and skill to kill (if that means more xp/mob fine), not attack 15 mobs half asleep... swing once.. blm nuke.. grab 15 more mob style.

I never accomplished anything in XI, it was too hard for me.

[FallenRaine]

I never accomplished anything in XI, it was too hard for me.

9yrs of playing ffxi and i never got gear either lmao. my first 75 and main was Pld and when I'd get into a Ls they would have a main tank that gets all the gear. even being backup tank i wouldn't get gear because someone who never came to events on Pld would be nxt in line or some bs.

And this happened to me in several linkshells over the years til i gave up on pld about a year b4 abyssea came out and got Blu to 75(when ppl didnt wanna pt with them still Refresh problem) and couldnt use it in endgame hardly either.the job lock on that game was ridiculous. if you didn't have a certain job lvled you were getting the short end of the stick.

Yea my pld was in demand,of course... but to be made to main tank dynamis week after week after week.and to kite in sky..only to watch a friggin MONK get first dibs on pld gloves just so he can complete a gear set on a job he never used for the LS and no one knew he had. something i could have used to keep main tanking for them lol so lame...maybe thats why everything is RNG in this game because the point system LS would set up for gear drops in ffxi was unfair at times.