Are you here because you hate WoW or love FF14

[Kyssa]

Was working and pulling 12 hour days after I got home. 2013 was still Legion which I enjoyed.

Got to BFA , one day realised I was logging in for the sake of sunk cost. Looked at the pitch black sky we had to put up with on OCE servers because Blizzard doesnt know what "the rest of the world that isnt America" means, contacted a friend and rolled Vel as an Arcanist, starting in Limsa.

She knew of my...dissatisfaction, I had logged in when it was night time in Limsa, bitched at my friend that this was more of the same.

They said..wait ten minutes. So I did.

What sold me on FF 14?

THIS DID.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7ForHMX-xs

A bright, blazing sun under an endless azure sky. From there, I never looked back. FF 14 is what WOW could have been, if the devs werent so damned lazy and utterly stupid.

( And before the usual suspects chime in with their one line snark, atmosphere and environment in a game matters as much as gameplay does.)

It does matter, and great post. I too left WoW a few years back and will never return. I love Eorzea.

[WeebPolice]

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Lmao, citizens, this post looks eerily similar to the vampire princess from a while ago. Gaius has truly returned.




The winds guide you.

[Gember]

I've never played WoW before, but I joined FFXIV in post Shadowbringers almost a year before the exodus of WoW players happened. As for WoW itself; I actually had to go out of my way to watch WoW content creators talk about the huge issues over there, and how FFXIV was inspired by some of WoW's fight designs to understand what these conversations/rants were about. Needless to say; I don't have anything against that game, but I understand why its community is unhappy with it, or more so with the corporation it was designed under.

[Renathras]

Why is it that so many people who defend FF14 non-stop don't actually like FF14, they just hate WoW

What are you talking about? Most of the people that defend FFXIV non-stop do so because they love FFXIV. They don't tend to even bring up WoW, the people that hate FFXIV bring up WoW then the people that love FFXIV counter with how FFXIV is better to them.

For my part, I actually like/love FF14. I'm sorry you don't, but if you like WoW better, you can...you know...go play it?

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Aug 2023 creation date, 26 posts......hm...

EDIT:

Oh, to answer on my feelings towards WoW?

Indifferent.

I don't hate WoW.
I don't hate what it's become.
I don't hate it relative to some ideal of what it's potential could be.

I don't have any strong feelings for or against it at all. That was why I left it. I became utterly indifferent. That was what told me it was time to move on, and I was playing FFXIV at the time and really enjoying it, and still do, so here I am.

[Jojoya]

Why is it that so many people who defend FF14 non-stop don't actually like FF14, they just hate WoW

That's a weird take. Who's defending FFXIV at the same time they hate it?

Then explain why every other post is about how WoW is so bad here ?

My guess is because you engage in selective reading and ignore the majority of the posts that don't mention WoW.

[SquishyPlushie]

It's because it's someone multi-tooning the forums baiting and flaming for reacts.

They were baiting me a couple days and I didn't know to be careful with my own opinions. Scrolling around it appears the serial forum troll others have complained about is "back" so to speak.

[ChonkGoblinSuprem]

The catgirls, bro. I’m just here for the catgirls.

[Fyrebrand]

I can't believe I didn't mention this in my first post, but when Guild Wars 2 first came out it was absolutely revolutionary and upturned a lot of traditional MMORPG conventions. It dumped the "holy trinity" (Tank, Healer, DPS), featured dynamic action combat rather than stand still and press a pre-planned button rotation, a heavy focus on open-world adventuring and truly rewarding exploration, it abandoned the traditional concept of "quests," and it encouraged a truly cooperative play style where everyone was on the same team during events and world bosses, you couldn't "steal" kills or resources, your skill effects can "combo" with other players' to trigger damage bursts and buffs, etc. It was like no game on the market, and I was completely in love. Still am, it's an incredible game and truly unique.

I was completely convinced that WoW and that whole style of "tab-target holy trinity MMO" was outdated and I never wanted to play those ever again.

When FFXIV: A Realm Reborn came out, I decided to give it a shot. Not as an MMO fan, but as a lifelong Final Fantasy nut. Admittedly, the "tab-target holy trinity" combat system didn't really appeal to me at first, I was just tolerating it to play a Final Fantasy game and do the story. I wished FFXIV had action combat like GW2, I wanted to be able to do a dodge roll to avoid real-time AoEs, I thought FATEs were really poor imitations of GW2's "dynamic events" (well, they are I guess), and the jumping controls were garbage (okay, they are). It was sort of like playing a "Final Fantasy-flavoured WoW clone."

My first character, I rolled a Conjurer, not realizing it was a healer role (there was no way to know at the time, it just seemed like a mage). I was pseudo-forced into a healing role for a lot of WoW, and I hated it. I felt like I was just standing in the corner watching everyone else play the game. When I found out Conjurer was a healer, I switched classes to Arcanist (original arcanist at launch was THE BEST CLASS btw, I could tank/heal/dps all at once). Eventually, the queue times for dungeons as a DPS job were trying my patience. I remember one time waiting over 75 minutes for a required MSQ dungeon to pop and I was seriously considering quitting the game. I heard that healer queues were much faster, so reluctantly I went back to Conjurer and gave it one last chance. For whatever reason, I LOVED it. Maybe because I understood MMOs a lot better than I did back in my WoW days. From then on healing has been the #1 thing I always want to do in any new game, and I gained a newfound appreciation for the old school "tab-target, holy trinity" style of MMO that makes such a role even possible in the first place.

The few times I went back and played a bit of WoW over the years, I played a Restoration Druid and had a great time with it.

TL,DR: Loved WoW, GW2 happened and made me kinda hate WoW for a bit, FFXIV happened and made me reappreciate WoW again.

[Yeol]

I play both FFXIV and WoW. I criticize and defend both games.

[hynaku]

I never have played WOW and don't ever care to. I came during 1.0 beta because the game looked so gorgeous.