The Coil's Situation

[Jeeqbit]

I think if they do anything it should be to rename the current ones as Savage and create a new set of them that are extremely easy and involve no tank swaps, tethers, precise movements, dive bombs and use full telegraphs so people stack correctly for mechanics.

They have actually already redone some of them. A modern take on the Bahamut fight appears in Cid's memories before Bozja, as well as another version in the final dungeon before EW. They could most likely just take one of those and reuse them for T13.

They also have a modern version of Nael in Ruby that they could use for T9.

I'm not sure about Twintania, but there is at least a hunt version of it that seems stripped of anything difficult.

We also have had some of the others reused in dungeons and as hunts and mobs, such as the plant boss.

[SannaR]

So because some people are bad you mustn't have a nice challenge? Some people are also bad at glamour and yet we have different armour sets. Some people are bad at soloing the MSQ yet we don't stop that either. Having options is a good thing.

I spent almost an entire lock out helping a friend try and help someone else get a T5 clear back during HW. The only person who no matter how many times we went over the mechanics that kept on wiping the group was the person needing the clear. I also spent months trying to clear T8 with pugs only to either have a tower not get pushed at all, not enough, someone with Allagan Field take damage, or enough people not stand in the circles. This was of course on runs where my groups would get a person who knew how to do things like T8 towers or at least had the guts to learn. Just to give you another example of how bad the "some people" were back then I practically had to get Rich levels of Ucob carried just to get my Tex clear cause every other group of people that had cleared it but me couldn't even get to post heart phase and the quality of your average XIV player hasn't really improved over the years.

[vetch]

I like what normal raids have become; Alexander has enjoyable raid content, and what came after it has followed suit. That's the kind of content I want to experience when I queue for a raid.

But far too many of the Coils are tedious or boring. Imagine queuing for a normal raid and ending up in Coil 3. Maybe that's someone's idea of fun, but certainly not mine.

Speaking of tedious or boring, imagine queueing for a raid and ending up in A2N, and one or, if you have awful luck, two of your four DPS sit in the gobwalkers for the whole fight doing 0 damage because they don't understand that the bombs hit for less than 2k in normal. Maybe that's someone's idea of fun, bu-

[VerdeLuck]

Speaking of tedious or boring, imagine queueing for a raid and ending up in A2N, and one or, if you have awful luck, two of your four DPS sit in the gobwalkers for the whole fight doing 0 damage because they don't understand that the bombs hit for less than 2k in normal. Maybe that's someone's idea of fun, bu-

Or a12n when neither tank knows when to lb3
Or a9n if no one kills the ads in the right spot

there's plenty of alexander portions that can be either boring or be screwed over by people who don't know the mechanics.

[vetch]

Or a12n when neither tank knows when to lb3
Or a9n if no one kills the ads in the right spot

there's plenty of alexander portions that can be either boring or be screwed over by people who don't know the mechanics.

Instadeath bullcrap is tedious in its own way, yes.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Or a12n when neither tank knows when to lb3
Or a9n if no one kills the ads in the right spot

there's plenty of alexander portions that can be either boring or be screwed over by people who don't know the mechanics.

Yes, and coil is much, much worse than those.

[Silver-Strider]

T1-4 - Absolutely doable even back in the ARR days.
T5 - No shot
T6 - Absolutely doable
T7 - 50/50 shot. Better chances than T5
T8-T13 - No way in hell.

[SieyaM]

This would be one of those instances where it comes up in the roulette and everyone bails immediately. A lot of the coils have packs of mobs or puzzles and mazes leading to the boss instead of just the boss in an arena as raiders have insisted on and why the change to that format occured.

[Absimiliard]

The obvious solution is to force everyone to fight Titan on a PS3.

[Vahlnir]

The obvious solution is to force everyone to fight Titan on a PS3.