Quote Originally Posted by Payadopa View Post
So because some people are bad you mustn't have a nice challenge? Some people are also bad at glamour and yet we have different armour sets. Some people are bad at soloing the MSQ yet we don't stop that either. Having options is a good thing.
I spent almost an entire lock out helping a friend try and help someone else get a T5 clear back during HW. The only person who no matter how many times we went over the mechanics that kept on wiping the group was the person needing the clear. I also spent months trying to clear T8 with pugs only to either have a tower not get pushed at all, not enough, someone with Allagan Field take damage, or enough people not stand in the circles. This was of course on runs where my groups would get a person who knew how to do things like T8 towers or at least had the guts to learn. Just to give you another example of how bad the "some people" were back then I practically had to get Rich levels of Ucob carried just to get my Tex clear cause every other group of people that had cleared it but me couldn't even get to post heart phase and the quality of your average XIV player hasn't really improved over the years.