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    Aldath's Avatar
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    Ghael Rehw-setlas
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    I mean, I'd say we have a plethora of enjoyable midcore content in the game. The problem is that they really never made an effort to future proof it and now everything melts without giving the chance for the bosses to use their mechanics. I mean, do CT and there's still plenty of people who die to Behemoth's meteor, and even MORE in ST who have no idea how to survive Amon's Curtain Call, but it doesn't matter because nowadays they die so fast that the chances of having to deal with the consequences of failure are minimal.

    I mean, now that the Tomestone event is up and I'm getting more than ARR Alliance Raids, I am impressed by the amount of times we have wiped, and it surprisingly did the encounter more fun for everyone because people were discovering things they had never seen before and created some fun memorable moments, like being blown away from Deathgaze's arena the exact moment he died because the ice dissapears once his HP hits 0% but the Aero still goes off. Of course things get easier after you understand how to do them, but encounters are hectic enough that they keep you on your toes without risking becoming a wipefest.

    I'm still progressing through SB, but the Alexander raids are proof that moderately challenging content doesn't matters if the current scaling makes it so you can faceroll half of it. Alexander Prime is still a challenging encounter for most players and the boss doesn't dies immediately so you actually have to do the mechanics, same with the boss that uses reassembly.
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    Sirk Raven
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    Maduin
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    Gunbreaker Lv 93
    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    To me its more like the game came out and people quickly just stopped talking about it. But in true SE fashion, the game's budget likely ballooned out of control, especially on marketing so there's a high chance the game wasn't actually all that profitable for them.

    Final Fantasy as a brand and IP also doesn't really have a lot of staying power anymore. People get more excited to see "FFVII" or "FFXIV" then they do to see "FF", thanks to the plethora of mediocre games and questionable decisions they've made in the past 20 years that split the fan base time and time again. I don't think using the Final Fantasy name in this regard will lead to them getting free critical acclaim status like other companies can do with their IPs. No one really cares about FF as a brand anymore, just its individual entries that remained popular, and they're even ruining that by mistreating the ones that are popular with such wonderful projects like FF7:Fortnite Soldier.

    The incredibly mid post release support of Endwalker also isn't helping things.
    I mean you literally just describe 98% of solo player games. Most solo player experiences are you play through it you experience the game complete whatever side quests you want to whether all or none and then once it's done it's done. Very few single player game have staying power past the first few week of release and usually those that do are exceptional. Now has FF had mediocre titles yea...but it's not a new thing FF8 was good for 2 disc then fell flat. Final fantasy 16 only has few problems and that it only released for PS5 is a major one, it will get a second Spike when it comes to Xbox and PC,
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Quote Originally Posted by CidHeiral View Post
    It's a single player game. It came out, they played it, they beat it. Not much else to talk about.
    People talked about Tears of the Kingdom for like a month.

    People talked about FFXVI for 11 minutes.
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    Cid Heiral
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    People talked about Tears of the Kingdom for like a month.

    People talked about FFXVI for 11 minutes.
    I see, the hundreds of replies in the FFXVI related threads on reddit right now must all be talking about their lunch.
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    Vivian Rysto
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by grinkdaboy View Post
    savage
    Savage is not Midcore.
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    Player Fourbestintoner's Avatar
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    Melodiane Valerian
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    Savage has been midcore since creator.
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    Sieya Mizuno
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    I feel like they tried midcore with Orbonne and then saw both casual and hardcore players avoid it at all costs and said forget it no one actually wants this they just want to talk about it.
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    CLL/DR/Dal is what I'd call midcore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    I feel like they tried midcore with Orbonne and then saw both casual and hardcore players avoid it at all costs and said forget it no one actually wants this they just want to talk about it.
    People also avoid Crystal Tower ?

    I see more people dropping the party when we load into LotA, more than people who drop Orbonne.
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    Ren Thras
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Honestly, I'm more annoyed Extremes have become Savages with body-checks galore and first boss Savage level mechanics. Traditionally, Extremes were a step down in difficulty, but now they're more or less at the same place. So the middle has been hollowed out.
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