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    Player RosaliaDLB's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    If people are really upset the trolls are finally being dealt with...then by all means be the change you want to see in the forums and pick up the mantle...follow like a good lemming right into the ban zone.
    Arent you already doing that every day ? Picking up that mantle ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RosaliaDLB View Post
    Arent you already doing that every day ? Picking up that mantle ?
    Ill take his random light hearted Humor any day, over Direct Harassment of people, and the Community, and all of the nonsense thread Necros and Bait Threads.
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    Player RosaliaDLB's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Ill take his random light hearted Humor any day, over Direct Harassment of people, and the Community, and all of the nonsense thread Necros and Bait Threads.
    You mean just like when he stalked Aveyond on his discord with a few other forum people and planned thread derailments, and even complained because of the daily quota because he couldnt derail more of his threads and he had to wait ?

    Yeah I remember

    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    Not really a fair comparison. Renalt shitposts a lot and I don't really find him funny personally, but it's not the same as Titanmen/others running around trying to incite and bait arguments.
    Same answer to you as I just wrote to Ronso
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    Quote Originally Posted by RosaliaDLB View Post
    You mean just like when he stalked Aveyond on his discord with a few other forum people and planned thread derailments, and even complained because of the daily quota because he couldnt derail more of his threads and he had to wait ?

    Yeah I remember



    Same answer to you as I just wrote to Ronso
    I have no knowledge of those things. I've only seen one vague apology thread from him which was taken down and I haven't checked his profile to see if more exist. If there was actual proof of these around here somewhere I'd be interested in seeing it though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RosaliaDLB View Post
    and even complained because of the daily quota because he couldnt derail more of his threads and he had to wait ?
    I dont know about any of this, Im not apart of anybodies discord and I dont partake in any of this.
    I very specifically said ""random light hearted Humor, over Direct Harassment of people""
    So if he did that, yes, DUH, I condemn it. I also Condemn bullying and harassment in general. As far as Im aware, he hasnt been doing any of that on the forums.

    Meanwhile other people......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebelheim View Post
    Right i don't know how doing all that then apologizing makes them better. It's nice to own up to mistakes but people can be easily forgivable and forget things. Im guessing making a public apology is what makes that situation somehow better and forgotten about.
    Proof that an Apology and not doing those things anymore (as far as I know) mean absolutely nothing.
    Im not defending that he did it or acting like everything is just forgiven and any other nonsense, I dont even know how much of it is true as I was not even a part of it.
    But Im judging by his actions that I see visually and his behavior that I can witness myself, here on the Forums. I dont see him going out of his way to put down and harass people, I dont see him antagonizing people, and I sure as heck dont see him making excuses or rationalization for what he does. I just see non-offensive and random memes that he posts in reaction to some things said.

    Not your humor? Thats fine, just like I dont find joy or humor in Harassment or Personal attacks.
    But Memes and Jokes not targeted at people, are different, then Targeted Harassment and memes to put down people. Its not acceptable behavior, no matter who you are, you shouldnt do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Proof that an Apology and not doing those things anymore (as far as I know) mean absolutely nothing.
    Im not defending that he did it or acting like everything is just forgiven and any other nonsense, I dont even know how much of it is true as I was not even a part of it.
    But Im judging by his actions that I see visually and his behavior that I can witness myself, here on the Forums. I dont see him going out of his way to put down and harass people, I dont see him antagonizing people, and I sure as heck dont see him making excuses or rationalization for what he does. I just see non-offensive and random memes that he posts in reaction to some things said.

    Not your humor? Thats fine, just like I dont find joy or humor in Harassment or Personal attacks.
    But Memes and Jokes not targeted at people, are different, then Targeted Harassment and memes to put down people. Its not acceptable behavior, no matter who you are, you shouldnt do it.
    I think its nice that the forums are more quiet and doesn't have a troll army around harassing and spamming/necroing threads. But it seems even with the troll and his army gone it seems he is brought up and thought about still instead of being forgotten about. If one person can be forgiven and there stuff forgotten why not forget about titanmen now that he is possibly gone for good along with his alt army.
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    Player RosaliaDLB's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebelheim View Post
    I think its nice that the forums are more quiet and doesn't have a troll army around harassing and spamming/necroing threads. But it seems even with the troll and his army gone it seems he is brought up and thought about still instead of being forgotten about.
    That's because he lives rent free in everyone's head on this forum, it's literally almost in every thread his name is brought up, they just cant let go of him, they have to keep talking about him over and over again, it's actually obsession at this point, any new person that posts on the forum with a negative opinion or criticism instantly gets called titanmen and a troll, it's a really weird obsession that people on this forum have, they say they dont want him here, but they'll keep mentioning him non stop
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    Quote Originally Posted by RosaliaDLB View Post
    That's because he lives rent free in everyone's head on this forum, it's literally almost in every thread his name is brought up, they just cant let go of him, they have to keep talking about him over and over again, it's actually obsession at this point, any new person that posts on the forum with a negative opinion or criticism instantly gets called titanmen and a troll, it's a really weird obsession that people on this forum have, they say they dont want him here, but they'll keep mentioning him non stop
    Titanmen is like the voldemort of the forum but instead of avoiding mentioning his name they summon him like the forums primal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebelheim View Post
    If one person can be forgiven and there stuff forgotten why not forget about titanmen now that he is possibly gone for good along with his alt army.
    Sure.
    Lets do that, lets advocate for that, Im 100% behind you and on board.
    Ill wager the discrepancy is a cause of how frequent and often we would see a Titanman Thread, or see that he necros a thread to start it back up, and that there are/were people that encouraged him to keep doing it.
    I know we are not capable of policing ourselves and the Mods are not here as much as they could/should be to stop it, but the only way I think we CAN do that, is if we can learn to ignore obvious bait, and somehow encourage real meaningful discussion and threads.

    Which....is asking for alot with the internet. I know.
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