Dramatic times in FFXIV

[Snorky]

Word on the (Fanfest) street is some of the senior developers got personally upset at forum comments

I always find it ironic that people don't know the difference between a constructive criticism and insults. Calling something garbage doesn't qualify as constructive criticism.

[Vahlnir]

Word on the (Fanfest) street is some of the senior developers got personally upset at forum comments

Amidst the chaos there can be, and there usually is, honest feedback. Sometimes that honesty isn't sugarcoated, but that's usually because an issue (or at least something that is perceived as an issue) has gone unaddressed for far too long. Some obviously take things too far and that is never okay. However, we aren't entirely to blame for this situation. Perhaps the language barrier does no one any favors, which I would completely understand. But there's a lot of little things that sort of piled up over time, and I know from personal experience that it can be frustrating, hence my break from the game some months ago. Most criticism comes from a place of caring. Some people don't really understand this, and I feel that applies to the forum goers and developers alike.

[Nebelheim]

The forums was mostly filled with drama and a army of alts that necro threads and insult people and each of the persons alts seems to have a different rp type personality to try to seem like its different people when everyone knows it's the same person lol. And would do multiple hot topic threads to incite the drama/hate on the forum knowing that they would get a reaction.

[NekoMataMata]

The forums was mostly filled with drama and a army of alts that necro threads and insult people and each of the persons alts seems to have a different rp type personality to try to seem like its different people when everyone knows it's the same person lol. And would do multiple hot topic threads to incite the drama/hate on the forum knowing that they would get a reaction.

To be fair everyone on the forums feeds them.

Maybe if people ignored anything they considered an alt and behaved themselves things could go back to normal. Instead people get worked up to the point of witch hunting for alts and generally making just as much of a nuisance of themselves. I've seen plenty of posts that I personally disagree with or think are awful ideas, but I don't immediately attack the person claiming that I'm going to rip off their face and reveal them to be the 100th Titanmen alt. I read through, dissect it and respond based on the content.

At this point it doesn't matter if Titanmen ever returns. They won a long time ago with how the general forums act.

[Nebelheim]

To be fair everyone on the forums feeds them.

Maybe if people ignored anything they considered an alt and behaved themselves things could go back to normal. Instead people get worked up to the point of witch hunting for alts and generally making just as much of a nuisance of themselves. I've seen plenty of posts that I personally disagree with or think are awful ideas, but I don't immediately attack the person claiming that I'm going to rip off their face and reveal them to be the 100th Titanmen alt. I read through, dissect it and respond based on the content.

At this point it doesn't matter if Titanmen ever returns. They won a long time ago with how the general forums act.

I agree people complain about titanmen and tell him to go away but respond to him which is what he wants. And it seems whenever someone disagrees with an opinion or a disagreement in general they scream that there a titanmen alt. So far i been claimed to be alt once over a disagreement/criticism. You cant have criticisms or disagreements now without being accused of being a stormpeaks or titanmen alt or taking sides.

[SquishyPlushie]

As someone who only recently started posting on the forums these comments probably explain a lot. Sounds on par with my initial assumption this is just WoW Forums 2.0 with alt armies sockpuppeting. Looking around, I think some people here are serial posters from the WoW forums trying to go for another round of reacts.

Do these forums have "Sunday" posts where trolls try to post extra hard when employees are off the clock as well?

I agree people complain about titanmen and tell him to go away but respond to him which is what he wants. And it seems whenever someone disagrees with an opinion or a disagreement in general they scream that there a titanmen alt. So far i been claimed to be alt once over a disagreement/criticism. You cant have criticisms or disagreements now without being accused of being a stormpeaks or titanmen alt or taking sides.

I feel like I'm missing forum lore, since I don't know those names.

[Remish]

Plot twist: What if instead of a mass IP ban wave, it turned out it was only one person who just so happened to be alts of all of those characters.

I agree people complain about titanmen and tell him to go away but respond to him which is what he wants. And it seems whenever someone disagrees with an opinion or a disagreement in general they scream that there a titanmen alt. So far i been claimed to be alt once over a disagreement/criticism. You cant have criticisms or disagreements now without being accused of being a stormpeaks or titanmen alt or taking sides.

From my observations, it's usually because when sides are seemingly taken, it has been done so displaying it with just as much passive aggressive vitriol as the flagged posters. This leads to accusations when tact in a reply is lacking. After awhile, these critic influencers were setting an etiquette example for others to follow that usually created a hostile echo chamber. That's why people began to take the criticism less seriously because it got hard to look through the rage and hate after awhile. People really need to reevaluate how they communicate. Though I know that's hard to when dramatic hostility attracts a stronger upvote which further enables toxic behavior.

[Jeeqbit]

Do these forums have "Sunday" posts where trolls try to post extra hard when employees are off the clock as well?

No, it's any day really.

The forums was mostly filled with drama and a army of alts

Is (has some alts, not really drama).

At this point it doesn't matter if Titanmen ever returns.

They are still posting regularly on numerous accounts. A lot of the recent ones have been freshly boosted characters that were still climbing to 90 at first.

people get worked up to the point of witch hunting for alts

Sometimes people accuse others of being an alt when they are not, but I think most of the time people are spot on. It's not very hard to figure out from the account creation date and looking up the character normally, so I don't understand why some people do this without even looking them up.

I don't immediately attack the person claiming that I'm going to rip off their face and reveal them to be the 100th Titanmen alt. I read through, dissect it and respond based on the content.

Same. A lot of their topics lead to constructive debates, actually, but some of them are just jokes, sarcastic or discussing other games or content creators. Easy to ignore those.

[SieyaM]

Better just hope you're not banned for it. Seems the general discussion forum has a moderator now. Recently I got a 10 day ban for "Posting aimed to create a negative impact on the community or its members" when I called the new headphones garbage. Well within their rights, of course. But just so you know. This broad categorization can be used for pretty much any post containing a scathing critique, so if you ever see a lot of heavy critics disappear that's likely why.

These are garbage is not a critique, saying they are disappointing and they don't wear in a way that makes sense on a number of models is one. You wouldn't call it a critique if someone said you were garbage.

[NekoMataMata]

Sometimes people accuse others of being an alt when they are not, but I think most of the time people are spot on. It's not very hard to figure out from the account creation date and looking up the character normally, so I don't understand why some people do this without even looking them up.

Forum account creation date? Doesn't that start from whenever you first make a forum account? I don't think it makes much of a difference, especially at this point. I wouldn't advise anyone to use their main character's name on these forums given the tendencies of certain people.