DRK and DRG in Frontlines

[Waffles298]

am i the only one who feels that both DRG and DRK are way too busted in Frontlines? it feels like if you get a match against a party that has them you’ll just get curb stomped by them (the DRK’s chaining their salted earths, while the DRG’s kill you).

if your on the team with them you just breeze through a match, farming points and BH off the teams that don’t have them.

there really doesn’t feel like there’s a hard counter for this situation, as some matches (the one i just had in particular) the team with the most DRK’s and DRG’s will have BH5 within a couple minutes of the match starting.

i really feel this is pretty unbalanced, ngl.

[Xylira]

You're definitely not the only one, there's other threads that discuss this exact same issue. There's a number of other broken combinations as well, particular when you start stacking things together in premade groups that can coordinate better. But DRK+DRG is by far the most braindead easy one to pull off at the moment, which is why it gets abused so much. SE seems to not care much at all about Front Lines balance since they added CC to the game.

If they'd just removed the pull effect from salted earth it would solve most of the issues.

[Connor]

The worst thing is when you know it’s coming, try putting up Guard once pulled…but it doesn’t go off in time lol. You can preemptively guard, sure, but then if you don’t get pulled you’re wasting a valuable cool-down

I’d also note I’ve seen a lot of the DRK/DRG combos supported by an AST. DRK/DRG do pull/lb then the Astrologian finishes the rest off with Macrocosmos to farm battle high / kills.

Although, to me Macrocosmos still isnt as silly as Scholars topping the damage charts with literally no effort whatsoever (*laughs in Biolysis*). Even a DRK/DRG combo can end up with less overall damage than a Scholar spamming Expedient / Biolysis / Deployment lol, depending on how lucky you get with enemy stacks

[Waffles298]

not to mention DNC’s joining the mix to pull people out of guard with their LB’s so the DRG’s/AST’s can do their work.

[TheGrimace]

Pretty funny they didn't do anything about this before the event began. Be ready to see a lot of this cheese happening. Have your finger near Guard at all times and hope you get it off in time.

[Oizen]

The issue has been and will always will be the horrendous servers making shit like purify and guard borderline nonfunctional

[Valence]

Yes there is broken combos. Imo stacking 8 SMNs together and all pulling LB at the same time (200k wide AoE potency) is even easier, but I guess it cannot be done with a light party premade alone. Still, why aren't people doing it? I suspect that most people just want to play their jobs and have fun or do their daily and not bother doing something they don't want to do. But yeah, people could retaliate with a lot of nasty stuff.

My only advice is to just turn off all effects to limited only and you'll see all the DRG LBs pretty effectively from miles away, especially in FLs where everything is so open. Perhaps sometimes you'll insta Guard by reacting to a DRG LB that's actually yours, but better safe than sorry. Also, wasting cooldowns in FLs is nothing on the scale of things. It's back under 30s, this is not Crystalline Conflict where it lasts for an eternity. There is a crapload of downtime in FLs.

My new thing in FLs is to just go for the anti BH5 jobs like WAR, MNK, etc. You literally have all the tools you need to stun the DRG just after their LB, and punt them right in the middle of your team so they get insta deleted. Works against most jobs, and if it doesn't, it spooks them enough that they become less of a problem when trying to pull off their crap.

[Llynethil]

Or just play BLM or MCH .

Can stay far away and in BLM case get broken ass chain lb's going to blow people up everywhere.
MCH can snipe low hp drg out of the air too with lb if you hit them before they launch, really satisfying.

[NekoMataMata]

Pretty funny they didn't do anything about this before the event began. Be ready to see a lot of this cheese happening. Have your finger near Guard at all times and hope you get it off in time.

Easier to entice people to play the broken game mode than to fix it, meanwhile not giving any tome rewards to CC at all.

[Buzuru]

i think WAR is more annoying by itself. that's why i play WAR.