I'm bored when I heal because I need more complex DPS rotations

[Heroman3003]

Here's how I would handle starting job levels in hindsight, if it were me in charge:

Every job added after ARR would start at level 30 and is accessible as soon as the player hits level 30. When new jobs are added, at the start of the expansion, there would be an EXP event for those new jobs that would drastically increase the amount of EXP gained form all sources for those jobs until maybe around X.05, or even X.1 until that job reaches the former level cap. In the upcoming examples, Viper and Pictomancer would start at 30, but might be receiving a 5x EXP modifier not just for defeating enemies, but for things like roulette bonuses and Wondrous Tails, etc until those jobs hit level 90. So anyone looking to play the new expansion with that new job would basically cruise through levels rapidly.

That sounds like complete murder of already horribly grindy experience of leveling every job to max for no reason. As much as lvl 61 gunbreaker is a meme, it's not issue that really needs solving, not at cost of completely gutting the leveling experience for the jobs. It's already painful getting to 70 on ant of ARR/hw jobs, it doesn't need to be more tedious.

[Supersnow845]

That sounds like complete murder of already horribly grindy experience of leveling every job to max for no reason. As much as lvl 61 gunbreaker is a meme, it's not issue that really needs solving, not at cost of completely gutting the leveling experience for the jobs. It's already painful getting to 70 on ant of ARR/hw jobs, it doesn't need to be more tedious.

The high level jobs create problems though in that people don’t know how to handle the jobs going into content that is designed to the basic class understanding in mind

Did you ever have to do holminster switch with a level 70 SGE who never picked up a healer before

Omni 90 shouldn’t be expected or actively encouraged without trying, Being level 90 in a class should mean that you can be dropped into current normal content and be able to do your job and do it decently, people getting classes at 70 then doing the MSQ roulette for a week then spamming diagnosis in dead ends is a serious problem with this game, sure if you start them on 30 they will probably just spam diagnosis in the MSQ roulette for a month instead but it may help some people, I definitely noticed that SGE is a great example of a class with a deceptively high skill floor but a very low skill ceiling, picking up SGE at 70 feels terrible, picking it up at 30 feels totally natural

[ty_taurus]

That sounds like complete murder of already horribly grindy experience of leveling every job to max for no reason. As much as lvl 61 gunbreaker is a meme, it's not issue that really needs solving, not at cost of completely gutting the leveling experience for the jobs. It's already painful getting to 70 on ant of ARR/hw jobs, it doesn't need to be more tedious.

The idea would be the amount of time it takes to level a job when released to the old max level should be the same time it takes to level it normally to the old max level. But how about this for your more softer palette: All jobs just are max level. No grind necessary, everything just is level 100 at DT's release.